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Thom Walsh

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Subject : Movingue Veneer
Posted : 2008-01-14 11:20 AM
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I got some old veneer and tried softening-flattening the veneer for use. Much to my surprise, small black spots appeared on the surface of it. Is it a chemical reaction to the flattening solution(yellow glue, alcohol, glycerin, and water) or moisture and the acid in the "unprinted"news paper???


 
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craig tufankjian

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Subject : RE: Movingue Veneer
Posted : 2008-01-14 11:51 AM
Post #34262 - In reply to #34261
Hi Thom,


sounds like the dye from the news paper bleed onto your veneer. try plain brown kraft or white un-waxed buthcher's paper.


 
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Thom Walsh

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Subject : RE: Movingue Veneer
Posted : 2008-01-14 1:34 PM
Post #34263 - In reply to #34262
Note I said unprinted news paper


 
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Don Stephan

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Subject : RE: Movingue Veneer
Posted : 2008-01-14 10:05 PM
Post #34264 - In reply to #34261
What type of wood was the veneer, and was the water distilled? I think cherry and oak sometimes will develop black spots from exposure to tap water, perhaps iron in the water reacting with tannin in the wood? My memory is failing on the details, but I remember reading of this in Jeff Jewitt's two most recent books on finishing. There may be some other woods that also exhibit this reaction.


 
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ckurak

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Subject : RE: Movingue Veneer
Posted : 2008-01-15 8:09 PM
Post #34265 - In reply to #34264
Don,

In the title Thom said the veneer was "Movingue."

http://www.ventecveneer.com/collections_colors/spectrum/movingue.html

# Origin: Cameroon, Ghana, West Africa
# Figured
# Also referred to as Satinwood because the lustrous look of movingue takes on the look of satin.

That said, I don't have a clue as to what is causing the problem.


 
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Don Stephan

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Subject : RE: Movingue Veneer
Posted : 2008-01-16 8:33 PM
Post #34268 - In reply to #34265
Ah, thanks for the tip. I didn't have a clue, thought the name was referring to some particular decorative pattern or application. Satinwood I'm familiar with and have used without problem, but have never had to flatten it.


 
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ckurak

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Subject : RE: Movingue Veneer
Posted : 2008-01-16 8:49 PM
Post #34269 - In reply to #34268
Don,

I wasn't sure what "Movingue Veneer" was, so I performed a Google search.

Charles


 
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Darryl Keil

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Subject : RE: Movingue Veneer
Posted : 2008-01-15 10:13 PM
Post #34266 - In reply to #34261
Tom,

How long did you flatten the veneer for?

Darryl


 
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Thom Walsh

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Subject : RE: Movingue Veneer
Posted : 2008-01-24 7:43 AM
Post #34318 - In reply to #34266
The black spotting showed up after the first time in the vacuum press, about 3 hours of pressing.
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