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Mike Korsak

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Subject : Walnut crotch veneer on a drawer front
Posted : 2017-05-04 4:10 PM
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Hi all. I'm working on a proposal for a chest of drawers and wanted to solicit some feedback on the best way to use shop sawn walnut crotch veneer on flat drawer fronts. The veneer will be laid out so that the "cathedrals" or "peaks" are horizontal. The drawer sides will half-blind dovetail into the drawer fronts, and fronts are ~7 1/8" tall, the longest is ~20 1/4" wide.

So however this is done, it needs to provide for solid end grain on the ends of the drawers to accomodate dovetails.

One method would be to simply laminate the veneer to a solid, quartersawn walnut core - veneer both the inside and outside faces of the core/drawer front with the same type, same thickness veneer.

I'm considering another method that would involve a laminated core with solid endgrain blocking splined to the core, but it seems that the end result is very similar to laminating to a solid QS core, but a lot more work.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks.




 
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Don Stephan

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Subject : RE: Walnut crotch veneer on a drawer front
Posted : 2017-05-04 7:02 PM
Post #37616 - In reply to #37615
How dry is the walnut crotch plank, and how thick do you plan to make your veneer?

Are you wanting full inset drawers with **** bead or overlay on top and sides? If the latter, how do you plan to terminate the veneer along the top edge and sides?


 
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Subject : RE: Walnut crotch veneer on a drawer front
Posted : 2017-05-04 7:17 PM
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Hi Don,

Thanks for your response.

This is just at the concept/proposal stage, so material hasn't been selected yet. Generally, though, I resaw veneers first thing in a build and let them acclimate in my conditioned shop for a few weeks before pressing.

Drawers are full inset.

Mike


 
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Subject : RE: Walnut crotch veneer on a drawer front
Posted : 2017-05-04 9:32 PM
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Sorry, forgot to mention veneer thickness: around 1/16" thick.


 
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Darryl Keil

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Subject : RE: Walnut crotch veneer on a drawer front
Posted : 2017-05-04 7:38 PM
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I'd vote for venering on top of quartered solid walnut. I suppose the other method with a plywood core is more stable but a hell of a lot more work.


 
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Subject : RE: Walnut crotch veneer on a drawer front
Posted : 2017-05-04 9:41 PM
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Darryl,

Thanks for your feedback. The laminated core method I was considering would not be a plywood core - the grain direction of all laminations would be in the same direction.

I had considered a plywood core, as you mentioned, but that presents issues with expansion/contraction of the solid drawer sides, as well as expansion/contraction of the solid endgrain blocks on the ends of the core.

Mike


 
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Don Stephan

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Subject : RE: Walnut crotch veneer on a drawer front
Posted : 2017-05-05 7:15 AM
Post #37622 - In reply to #37615
Must confess I haven't been able to decide what advantage your laminated front would present, nor why solid blocks at the ends would be needed.

At about 7 1/4" the width of the drawer components begins to become an issue in terms of seasonal movement. Qtd walnut fronts will be more stable under the veneer as well as offering less seasonal movement, so the drawer front could be fitted with less clearance in the drawer opening, but it would be worth looking for a secondary wood for the drawer sides and back with similar seasonal movement in width. Or bite the bullet and use qtd walnut for the drawer sides and backs as well. You could economize some on the sides and backs by making them thinner and using drawer slips to trap the drawer bottom.

Hopefully you have experience resawing walnut crotch before submitting a proposal. I have no clue how it might behave, nor do I have any experience with flattening solution on 1/16" veneer if it were needed.


 
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Subject : RE: Walnut crotch veneer on a drawer front
Posted : 2017-05-05 7:47 AM
Post #37624 - In reply to #37622
Don,

I agree that the laminated core method yields pretty much the same result as a solid core (just lots more work). In that scenario, the core would have been a different material, hence the solid end grain blocks.
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