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Alan

 
Subject : removing tape
Posted : 2004-04-15 10:17 PM
Post #31445

Can you give some more hints on removing veneer tape. I soak for 1 min. then soak again and wait 1 min. I read this here. Then I try to remove with a scraper and it's just a big mess with glue stains left behind. What tool is best to use to scrape off the tape after it's wet and how do you remove the tape stains without over wetting the veneer? Thanks Alan


 
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Brian Gray

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Location: Sandusky, OH

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Subject : RE: removing tape
Posted : 2004-04-16 7:32 AM
Post #31446 - In reply to #31445

Sand....

Paul Schurch taught me to use a 4 inch belt sander, but I've ruined too many projects that way....I'm not sure how he does it, but I never mastered it. The problem that I have is that I can't really control where the sander is removing material.

I own the Festool rotex random orbit sander, and it's my tool of choice to this task.

When doing marquetry and general veneering, I used to be of the mind to use as little gum tape as possible....but now, I sometimes completely cover a project with gum tape (especially marquetry).

The reason for this, is the gum tape becomes my guage as to when to stop sanding....when it's gone, stop. Before, without gum tape, it was just a guessing game....especially on the edges, where I'm prone to possibly lean over the edge if I'm not careful.

If I'm not going to sand of whatever reason, I use a putty knife. Make sure to hone it, however. Not sharp like a chisel, but not the edge that comes off the rack. I just take it to a grinder, maybe some stones, then buff. The problem with the putty knife is that you still end up with some adhesive on the project, and you need to sand to get rid of it, anyway.

Hope this helps.




 
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Alan

 
Subject : RE: removing tape
Posted : 2004-04-16 10:42 AM
Post #31447 - In reply to #31446

Thanks Brian, That method makes sense. What grit paper do you use on that nice Rotex? Thanks Alan


 
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Brian Gray

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Subject : RE: removing tape
Posted : 2004-04-16 4:16 PM
Post #31448 - In reply to #31447

The rotex has dual modes....one for heavy stock material, and the other is random orbit, for finish sanding.

I usually start with 120 grit on the heavy stock removal setting, and remove most of the gum tape.

Then switch to the random orbit mode with 120 again. I get rid of any remaining gum tape.

Then 180 grit in the same mode, and all I'm doing with this grit is getting rid of sanding marks from the previos grits.....not very much sanding at this point.

Hope this helps.

bg




 
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craig

 
Subject : RE: removing tape
Posted : 2004-04-16 6:39 PM
Post #31449 - In reply to #31445

alan,
the best tool I 've found is a lie-neilson 212 scraper plane. should you decide to get one here's how to set it up, set the plane sole on a flat surface, remove the blade, tear off two small pieces of the veneer tape you used on the lay-up, put these two pieces under the sole of the plane, one piece on each end, re-install the blade making sure that the blade contacts the surface which is now elevated by the thickness of the veneer tape. you have now gauged the plane to remove the tape and tape only seeing you are only scraping the thickness of the tape. you can still moisten the tape first and then scrape, but make sure you dry off the plane parts after your done. i've removed miles of veneer tape which was my inspiration to buy the kuper 1150 veneer sticher i have now.


craig tufankjian
www.customoneveneers.com


 
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Darryl Keil

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Subject : RE: removing tape
Posted : 2004-04-16 9:52 PM
Post #31455 - In reply to #31445

Alan,

As you can see there are quite a few ways to remove veneer tape and really no right way, only what works for you. I personally like the wetting technique you talked about. I find if you do it right there is no need for the scraper at all, just grab the tape and it should come right up. This really only works with no hole veneer tape. As far as the glue residue, I scrub the taped area with the scrubby side of a sponge, nice and wet. Not only does is remove the residue but if by chance there are any places not bonded properly the water will bubble up the veneer in these areas. I actually wet down the entire panel. I would rather find any unglued spots right away than after its all sanded with a finish on it. If the panel can pass this "wet down" test then I know there wont be any problems later.

Sincerely
Darryl Keil




 
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Alan

 
Subject : RE: removing tape
Posted : 2004-04-17 12:25 AM
Post #31457 - In reply to #31455

Thanks everybody. Now I know why I'm having trouble with my method. I'm using three hole tape instead of solid. Even with the three hole tape I'm getting better at it using a scraper and then sanding with 150g to start. But I would be very nervous wetting down the whole panel as Darryl suggests. Maybe one of these days I'll be brave enough. Thanks guys. Alna


 
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Alan

 
Subject : RE: removing tape
Posted : 2004-04-17 12:26 AM
Post #31458 - In reply to #31457

The name is Alan and it's too late. Alan


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