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Richard

 
Subject : "Alpi-lignum" veneers
Posted : 2003-03-07 11:35 PM
Post #28736

I have been using a product that is available through Constantines that is some sort of manufactured product from an Italian company called Alpi. From what I understand it issomehow made from wood fiber and reconstituted into dyed veneers. Is anyone familiar with this product? Can you tell me more about it? I like to be able to explain this sort of thing to my clients, but I'm having trouble finding more info about this product. Thanks!!



 
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David B

 
Subject : "Alpi-lignum" veneers
Posted : 2003-03-11 9:10 PM
Post #28747 - In reply to #28736

If it is what I think it is, it is made by dying sheets of plain, uniform veneers, then gluing these sheets up into a large block, then re-slicing it into veneers. By controlling the colors, patterns, and slicing angles, they can create anything from imitations of otherwise costly exotics to bizarre colorful patterns not found in nature. One of the benefits is the amount of control they have over the process - if you buy another sheet next year it will pretty much match the one you bought last year. They are made from real wood veneers, if that is important to your customer.I have worked with a few different versions of these - they are available from several sources, but I suspect they all come from the same place. Depending on your source they may be available in paperback, phenolic-backed, or plain sheets, and are pre-sanded so (if you don't scratch them up during production) they need relatively little additional sanding before finishing.For the most part they behave and are worked like regular veneers, similar to how any other veneer with the same backing would work.




 
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Alexander

 
Subject : RE: "Alpi-lignum" veneers
Posted : 2003-11-04 10:18 PM
Post #31062 - In reply to #28747

How to finish Alpi-lignum veneer? They say in their instruction that it is enough to put a layer of lacquer over or poly. Is it? I am not a professional,but I did quite a few things with a solid wood. I tried poly onit but was not successful - I used brush an even I put 4 layers, some small dotted "bubbles" were still there. So I started to use a Danish oil in my other project.
I didn't work with veneer, but I have a local company which can glue it to MDF, and I need to do finising. Please advize what is a right procedure to have a good professional result (if it is possible) for non-professional? Does it make sense to do poly or lacquer? What is the sequence? What mateials to use? I don't mind to put as much labor as needed.


 
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jeff

 
Subject : website on Alpi veneers
Posted : 2003-03-31 10:17 PM
Post #28813 - In reply to #28736

:there is a company called brookside veneers that imports these. They have a good description of the process with pictures.




 
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Alexander

 
Subject : RE: website on Alpi veneers
Posted : 2003-11-04 11:19 PM
Post #31063 - In reply to #28813

Jeff, thank you for your response. Brookside veneers have a very rough description: send, seal, laquer. But I need a little more: a)sanding -100 or 100, than 200, than 300? b) what sealer to use? Can Danish oil to be used instead? If not -what to use? how manytimes? should I send between the coats and what to use (Alpilignum is about 1/42"? c) what lacquer to use? How to avoid bubbles which comes when I drug bruch ? Is laquer betterthan poly? How to avoid sun damage (we are in CA)? I will appreciate all inputs, guys, I really want to make it work. My friend has samples of this veneer from Europe they are great!


 
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Darryl Keil

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Subject : RE: website on Alpi veneers
Posted : 2003-11-26 8:33 PM
Post #31107 - In reply to #31063

Alexander,

It's been my experience that veneer really requires more than a oil finish for decent protection. I usually take the veneer up to about 220 grit paper and then apply a coat or two of sealer, sanding that with 320 grit. I understand you do not have spray finishing capacity but you can get decent brushable sanding sealers and a top coat. Benjamin Moore makes one that I have recommended. Laquer is really a spray finish for the most part so I would go with a poly.

Sincerely
Darryl Keil


 
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alexander

 
Subject : RE: website on Alpi veneers
Posted : 2003-11-25 6:31 PM
Post #31106 - In reply to #28813

can you please suggest if a few layers of the Danish oil with a sanding (250? 350? grid paper?) will be enough to protect a new veneer from water and sun? I have a new kitchen cabinets, and I am looking for a way to avoid very expensive professional spray in booth with lacquer or polyurethane. I can repeat the procedure and put another layer of it twice in a year. Isit enough or not? Will it have a good appearance? I was told that both lacquer and polyurethane will become yellow over the time,and will need to call professional help again, but danish oil I can do myself. What approach to take?


 
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David Thomsson

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Subject : RE: "Alpi-lignum" veneers
Posted : 2011-04-21 4:07 PM
Post #36346 - In reply to #28736

We are the importer for this veneer(Brookside Veneers). Go to our website at www.veneers.com for some information and then call us. We can guide you through the finishing process.


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