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BigRob777

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Subject : Rotary Cutters
Posted : 2008-07-05 8:22 AM
Post #34666

Can anyone tell me if a handheld rotary cutter (used on a self-healing mat) is a good tool for cutting veneer? I'll try to post a link to a pic here:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y179/BigRob777/rotarycutter.jpg

You may have to cut and paste, to view it. BTW, those mats (in black) are on sale today at dickblick.com

I don't know why I copied this pic, it isn't the cutter I'm going to buy, but it's similar. The one I'm considering has an adjustable angle.

Thank you,
Rob



 
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Brian Gray

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Subject : RE: Rotary Cutters
Posted : 2008-07-05 9:10 AM
Post #34667 - In reply to #34666

I really doubt that that tool would work well.

If you did it on MDF, or something hard, you might be fine, but a self healing mat would probably make things worse.

The veneer would buckle and crumble on a mat, my thoughts.

And you would have to press VERY hard on a sheet of MDF to get the slicer to sever the veneer.

I just don't think that that tool is real sharp, and probably won't stay sharp very long, and then sharpening it properly would be a real pain.

But the real trick is that the blade is simply rolling over the work, not sliding. A sliding blade will sever the fibers, where a rolling blade will just walk over the veneer.

However, I don't want to discourage you...if it works, please report back.

I really think that the best tool is a veneer chisel, ala Paul Schurch.

I've used one ever since I went out to study with him.

http://www.schurchwoodwork.com/tools/T242.html

It is sharpened just like a standard chisel, but then the cutting tip is rounded over slightle and honed on BOTH sides.

Read this thread for more info...

http://www.vacupress.com/forum/thread-view.asp?threadid=16127&MessageID=31697#31697

This tool, in conjunction with a nice straight edge, or you can also freehand, is all you need to start.

Then the other tool that I use to cut veneer is the Festool saw. WONDERFUL tool and the best way to cut veneer, if you ask me, but it's pricey.

Some guys here use a Fein setup (including Darryl). Some of us are trying to convert him to a Festool guy. We still haven't heard back from him yet.

Darryl...come to the dark side...


 
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Brian Gray

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Subject : RE: Rotary Cutters
Posted : 2008-07-05 9:46 AM
Post #34668 - In reply to #34667

After seeing your post, I started looking around at veneer cutters.

I found this site...

http://www.carlmfg.com/us/carl/Products/trimmers.htm

Here's a link to a list of which models will cut which materials. Look at the bottom to see which models they advertise to cut veneer.

http://www.carlmfg.com/us/carl/Products/TrimmersCutters/materials_chart.htm

I beleive that all of these cutters use a rotary cutter, and like I said above, a sliding blade would be better than rolling blade.

And here's the next trick....once you get one of these cutters that are big enough to handle decent sized sheets of veneer, you are approaching the price of a Festool saw, which is certainly better.

Just thought I'd share. Looks interesting, but I'll stick with my chisel and saw.


 
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BigRob777

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Subject : RE: Rotary Cutters
Posted : 2008-07-05 11:56 AM
Post #34669 - In reply to #34668

Brian,
Thanks. I just bought a regular veneer saw and have a scalpel system too. When I start selling my work, I think the festool will be next. I went ahead and bought the rotary cutter, as it was pretty cheap and my wife likes to do crafts. I also bought a small mat for her, since they are on sale for such a low price. I hope that the black mats are just as good as the rest.
Rob


 
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Brian Gray

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Subject : RE: Rotary Cutters
Posted : 2008-07-05 12:13 PM
Post #34670 - In reply to #34669

Sounds good, Rob.

Please report back on your experience with this tool.

Since you mentioned the veneer saw, be sure to check out Paul's site on how to properly sharpen it if you haven't already. That's pretty critical. A veneer saw is kind of useless until it's nicely sharpened.


 
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BigRob777

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Subject : RE: Rotary Cutters
Posted : 2008-07-05 12:36 PM
Post #34671 - In reply to #34670

Sorry to mention it here, but I got it presharpened, from Joe Woodworker.
I'll report back if I try out the rotary cutter on veneer. I have loads of little pieces of curly anigre laying around to practice on. Or as my retired English teacher father would say, "on which to practice."
Rob


 
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Don Stephan

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Subject : RE: Rotary Cutters
Posted : 2008-07-06 11:25 AM
Post #34672 - In reply to #34671

Rob:

Ditto Brian's suggestion to research how to sharpen veneer saw. You'll eventually have to re-sharpen anyway, and I'd want to confirm it came to you sharpened correctly. Just my two cents.


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