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H. Yeager

 
Subject : removal of old veneer to reuse
Posted : 2002-06-27 11:09 PM
Post #29224
Any ideas as to the best way, if any, to remove veneer that has been on a panel for many years. In this instance crotch mahogany about 12" wide and 4 feet long.



 
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Harold Yeager

 
Subject : removal of old veneer to reuse
Posted : 2002-07-03 11:38 AM
Post #29247 - In reply to #29224
Didn't want to save the panel it was glued to. I used the hot water suggestion (had to soak it over night) and it came off fine. Placed it between two 2 X 12s on the drive way and rested one wheel of the truck on it for 3 days. It was very flat and seemed dry. Wonerful. 1 day after removing it had wrinkled all over and cracked around the edges, in about one to two inches. Thought I saw a remedy for this in the suggestions using glycerin, but can't find it now. (Losing things increases with the declining years!) Any help?




 
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John Randazzo

 
Subject : removal of old veneer to reuse
Posted : 2002-07-04 12:05 PM
Post #29250 - In reply to #29247
: Didn't want to save the panel it was glued to. I used the hot water suggestion (had to soak it over night) and it came off fine. Placed it between two 2 X 12s on the drive way and rested one wheel of the truck on it for 3 days. It was very flat and seemed dry. Wonerful. 1 day after removing it had wrinkled all over and cracked around the edges, in about one to two inches. Thought I saw a remedy for this in the suggestions using glycerin, but can't find it now. (Losing things increases with the declining years!) Any help? Harold, Crotch mahogany is probably onr of the most unruley veneers I've used,When working with it, you would be suprised just how creative you become on finding ways to make it cooperate. I would suggest you contact Darryl and get his recipe for flattening solution, which is a combo of pva glue, alcohol, glycerin, and water. Whether you use the flattening solution or not, I strongly suggest keeping it pressed flat until you are ready to use it. Good luck, John.




 
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John Randazzo

 
Subject : removal of old veneer to reuse
Posted : 2002-06-28 7:43 AM
Post #29225 - In reply to #29224
: Any ideas as to the best way, if any, to remove veneer that has been : on a panel for many years. In this instance crotch mahogany about 12" : wide and 4 feet long. That would depend on what type of glue was used originally, and wether or not you are trying to save the substrate as well. But if it's a really old panel then chances are it was glued with hyde glue. Once the finish is removed, if you are not trying to save the substrate, then you can soak the entire panel in a tub of hot water and the veneer will come off in just a few minutes, but if you are saving the sub then you'll have to remove the veneer with heat, a heat gun or a hot iron will work. I have never used heat to remove a panel this large before, but I think there would be a danger of the veneer cracking from the amount of heat needed to remove a panel this large. But I think it's doable with some patience. The best way though is soaking it in water. Good luck, John.




 
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Larry Root

 
Subject : removal of old veneer to reuse
Posted : 2002-06-29 6:49 AM
Post #29230 - In reply to #29225
John,I'm facing a similar problem: My wife wants me to repair and refinish a family treddle sewing machine cabinet with very loose veneer.I assume that it was put down with hide glue. I was wondering what would happen if I put it into an alcohol bath rather than a water bath.Would the alcohol penetrate enough through the veneer to de-activate the hide glue without ruining the substrate?Thanks for any comments or suggestions.Larry




 
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Dean Andersen

 
Subject : I have an old treddle sewing machine that works except for the fact that the leather strap that d...
Posted : 2002-10-16 6:34 PM
Post #29481 - In reply to #29230
: John,: I'm facing a similar problem: My wife wants me to repair and refinish a family treddle sewing machine cabinet with very loose veneer.: I assume that it was put down with hide glue. I was wondering what would happen if I put it into an alcohol bath rather than a water bath.: Would the alcohol penetrate enough through the veneer to de-activate the hide glue without ruining the substrate?: Thanks for any comments or suggestions.: Larry




 
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John Randazzo

 
Subject : removal of old veneer to reuse
Posted : 2002-06-29 8:57 AM
Post #29233 - In reply to #29230
: John,: I'm facing a similar problem: My wife wants me to repair and refinish a family treddle sewing machine cabinet with very loose veneer.: I assume that it was put down with hide glue. I was wondering what would happen if I put it into an alcohol bath rather than a water bath.: Would the alcohol penetrate enough through the veneer to de-activate the hide glue without ruining the substrate?: Thanks for any comments or suggestions.: LarryLarry, I,ve never tried using alcohol before so I have no idea wether or not it would release the veneer. If the veneer is'nt loose in too many areas, then you could inject thinned out white glue under the veneer with a hypo needle and press it down with a hot iron, or if it's very loose, then I would remove all the finish and try to remove the veneer by placeing a wet cloth folded many times on the veneer and pressing a hot iron on the cloth and the hot steam should release the veneer, just be carefull not to do this any longer than it takes to remove the veneer to lessen the chances of lifting the crossbanding. Hope this helps, John.
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