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Don Stephan

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Subject : Fans and shading
Posted : 2016-07-14 3:09 PM
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Fans look much better with one edge of each piece darkened via sand shading. The current project includes my first fans, half circles in this case. My question is whether one outside edge should be sand shaded, or should both outside edges be normal color of the veneer. The latter would mean one piece of the fan would not be sand shaded on either edge. Thanks.


 
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Subject : RE: Fans and shading
Posted : 2016-07-14 8:49 PM
Post #37507 - In reply to #37506

Don,

How would a real-life fan look? What shadow would be cast on the "first blade" of the fan? I think none.

Then I googled "veneer inlay fan sand shading" and found this diagram:

http://www.marquetrysociety.ca/Parquetry_Files/PARQUETRY%20FIG1.gif

It has one edge of every blade shaded. So, maybe it depends on the shape of the blades. I was imagining flat blades at first. And, each blade was a separate piece of material. The one in the diagram appears to have curved blades. Also, the blades may appear to be of a single piece of material: possibly webbed? I guess it depends on the real-life object you are trying to depict.


 
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Don Stephan

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Subject : RE: Fans and shading
Posted : 2016-07-15 8:08 AM
Post #37508 - In reply to #37507

The marquetry book I bought decades ago shows fans both ways, which led to my question. I put some together yesterday both ways to compare. I'll put alongside sample banding today to see if I like one better than the other. It may depend on whether the outer strip of the banding is dyed black Costello or satinwood.


 
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Darryl Keil

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Subject : RE: Fans and shading
Posted : 2016-07-15 11:02 AM
Post #37509 - In reply to #37508

Personally I only shade one edge but that just my preference.


 
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Don Stephan

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Subject : RE: Fans and shading
Posted : 2016-07-15 7:00 PM
Post #37510 - In reply to #37509

Dr D:

As usual I didn't explain very well. They are semi-circular fans, each 8 pieces of mottled anigre, butting up against multi-part banding.

To make the pieces, first I cut rectangles of the anigre, then cut each rectangle along a diagonal making a pair of 22.5°. 90°, 67.5° right triangles. The longest side of each of these triangles is the hypotenuse, opposite the right (90° angle), the slightly shorter side of each triangle is opposite the 67.5° angle, and the third side is much shorter than the other two.

I sand shaded the hypoteneuse (longest side) of each triangle.

To make the semi-circle, I set out 8 of the triangles, each with the shortest leg facing me and the sand shaded hypotenuse facing left. I put the middle length leg of the first triangle against the sand shaded hypotenuse of the 2nd triangle and taped them together. Then I put he middle length of the 2nd triangle against the sand shaded hypotenuse of the 3rd and taped them together, and so on until all 8 triangles were taped together making a semi circle. The flat side or diameter of the semi-circle had the unshaded middle length leg of the first triangle to the left, and the sand shaded hypotenuse of the 8th triangle to the right. So the diameter is half not sand shaded and half sand shaded. The alternative was to NOT sand shade the hypotenuse of the 8th triangle, so the entire length of the flat side of the semi circle would be not sand shaded.

After looking at an example of each option, I decided to sand shade the hypotenuse of each triangle, so that half the flat diameter of the semi circle is not sand shaded and half is. I'm not sure one option is better or worse than the other, in a way each looks slightly "off."



 
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Darryl Keil

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Subject : RE: Fans and shading
Posted : 2016-07-18 7:04 PM
Post #37511 - In reply to #37510

How about you post us a couple pictures of what you're attempting


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