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Jeff1969

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Subject : veneering curved work
Posted : 2013-04-09 9:09 PM
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Hi Folks,

I'm reproducing a drawer for a client who lost one to a burgler. It's to be one of a matched pair from an antique sideboard. The drawer fronts are curved up and down like a cylinder laying on it's side. The radius is 3 1/8". The dimensions are 20.5" wide x 19.5" deep x 4.5" high. All joints are dovetailed, the front ones being half blind. The bottom is solid wood and slides in from the back. The front is solid mahogany with a bookmatched crotch mahogany veneer. The rest of the drawer I believe is pine. To make the drawers match I'm veneering the new one and re-veneering the old one. The new one is easy since I can veneer it prior to assembly.

My questions concern the existing drawer. Do I need to remove the existing veneer or just sand it and glue on the new stuff? And what might be the best way to clamp it? Is there any way to use a bag without crumpling the whole shebang? I can't disassemble it without destroying it. Incidentally the crotch mah. grain runs perp to the drawer front but I plan to cross band it with some plain mah.

Thanks in advance for any advice.


 
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Darryl Keil

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Subject : RE: veneering curved work
Posted : 2013-04-10 3:01 PM
Post #36883 - In reply to #36882
What kind of a burglar steals wooden drawers???

It will be hard to put an assembled drawer in a bag without causing problems. I suggest you press it outside the bag.

I would also make a two ply veneer with a backer mahogany veneer and the crotch on top. Make this lay up in the bag, in the flat, and the next day press this onto you curved front. A two ply is stabilized enough that if your pressure is not perfect when you press it to the drawer front you wont have to worry about bubbles.

I would make a small form with two layers of 3/8" bending play over some ribs in the shape of the drawer front radius and clamp this curved form to the drawer front. Get some felt or 1/16" natural gum rubber as a cushion between the drawer front and curved form to adjust for any imperfections.

Another option is to make a tray filled with sand and clamp the drawer front and two ply into the sand. The sand will conform to the shape of the drawer front.

Hope this makes sense.


 
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Jeff1969

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Subject : RE: veneering curved work
Posted : 2013-04-11 12:19 PM
Post #36884 - In reply to #36883
Thanks Darryl. It was the kind of burglar that used a couple of drawers to carry off all the other stuff they took. There's another drawer involved but it's easier to deal with.

I believe I'll try to make a caul from bending ply or maybe cut a reverse form by cove cutting on the table saw. I'm also going to try your recipe for flattening wavy veneer.


 
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Jeff Patrick


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Subject : RE: veneering curved work
Posted : 2013-04-13 7:55 PM
Post #36885 - In reply to #36884
Hammer veneer using hide glue.


 
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Jeff1969

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Subject : RE: veneering curved work
Posted : 2013-04-18 9:23 PM
Post #36886 - In reply to #36885
It turns out that hide glue was the original adhesive. I was able to disassemble the entire drawer and I've begun removing the original veneer. There may be some tricky moments ahead handling the cranky new crotch veneer but it will certainly be easier since I can now vacuum bag the glue up. Just to accommodate future repairs I might try hide glue for the new veneer. Are there any issues using hide glue in a vacuum bag?


 
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Darryl Keil

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Subject : RE: veneering curved work
Posted : 2013-04-19 11:04 AM
Post #36887 - In reply to #36886
There are two types of hide glue, one that comes is crystal form which you heat in a glue pot and the other that comes in a bottle ready to use.

Although you can use the crystal type in a vacuum bag it will be much more practical to use the liquid type that comes in a bottle.
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