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Carl F. Turshman

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Subject : sand shading
Posted : 2008-12-29 1:30 PM
Post #35154

What kind of sand is best for sandshading. My book by Metcalfe and Apps calls for "silver sand". The book was printed in the UK. Where can I get this sand?

Carl


 
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ckurak

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Subject : RE: sand shading
Posted : 2008-12-29 1:45 PM
Post #35155 - In reply to #35154

Carl,

Do you have Paul Schürch's second video (Marquetry)? Paul covers sand shading in this video. Does anyone remember if he mentions the type of sand?

Charles


 
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Don Stephan

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Subject : RE: sand shading
Posted : 2008-12-29 8:14 PM
Post #35156 - In reply to #35155

Ah, this does bring back memories . . .

A few years ago, I spent hours and hours searching for "silver sand" without success. When I took his workshop, Mr. Schurch explained that he simply uses white play sand as it is less inclined to stick to the scorched veneer than "regular" sand. I purchased a bag at Home Depot and poured into empty gallon jugs to store the excess. (These jugs by the way make excellent weights when temporarily pressing veneer under pieces of plywood while veneer tape dries.)

Using about a 6" diameter cast iron skillet and simple electric hot plate, I was having little success "scorching" until Rob Millard said he only has about 1/4" layer of sand in the skillet. Just be attentive, with such a thin layer I found it is very easy to quickly go from "scorching" to briquette.


 
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Brent Longtin

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Subject : RE: sand shading
Posted : 2008-12-31 9:09 AM
Post #35157 - In reply to #35154

I've been doing a lot of this lately. I use some very fine white craft sand which I bought at Michaels - the craft store. A small jar lasts forever. I've had excellent results with it with no problem with the sand sticking to the veneer. I spread it in a small, flat metal pan which I heat on my gas stove. It takes about 15 minutes for it to get up to temperature. One warning, the sand I bought is very white and it oxidizes something fierce in the first few firings. The fumes are powerful and could be poisonous so do it in a well ventilated area.


 
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craig tufankjian

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Subject : RE: sand shading
Posted : 2009-01-02 10:23 PM
Post #35165 - In reply to #35154

Hi Carl,

dont know if this will help....

http://www.mikes-woodwork.com/Papers/Making%20a%20Veneer%20Sand%20Shaded%20Fan.pdf%20


 
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Don Stephan

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Subject : RE: sand shading
Posted : 2009-01-04 7:39 PM
Post #35170 - In reply to #35165

Thanks for another great tip Craig, in this case a link to a sand shading tutorial. One minor glitch, when I cut and pasted the link it did not work. I went to the "papers" sub-directory and then clicked on the sand shading .pdf.

One point not mentioned in the tutorial. Paul Schurch recommends lightly wetting the piece of veneer immediately after scorching, and pressing between pieces of scrap ply for a few minutes. Scorching dries out the veneer, so the goal is to re-hydrate the veneer quickly and easily so that it returns to normal size and is not so brittle. Works for me.

Don


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