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emanuel leimanis

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Subject : Cherry veneer and darkening with time
Posted : 2008-12-10 3:30 PM
Post #35122
Hello,

I'm starting a dresser and 2 bedside tables with solid cherry and cherry veneer with inset panels in Mahogany crotch.

My concern is, I have a supply of QS cherry veneer that I have had for going on 5 years. It was stored flat and wrapped in paper and covered. It was opened and obviously left open for some period as it has darkened on the top leaf and in from the edges.

Will I be able to sand the veneer to an even colour prior to finishing. Does the darkening process with cherry go all the way through the veneer or just on the surface.

I do have time to get a new supply of veneer if necessary. I am concerned of the difference from the solid cherry and the veneer. The piece will have light application of Beckers "Wild Cherry" S/W stain. I am matching tones with some existing pieces



Thanks for your help


 
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Steven Kenzer

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Subject : RE: Cherry veneer and darkening with time
Posted : 2008-12-10 8:15 PM
Post #35123 - In reply to #35122
That's a tough question without seeing the veneer. Considering the thickness of a sheet of veneer, the likelihood of sanding all "shadowing" out is fairly slim. What is working to your advantage is the staining process. I'm not familiar with that company or product but, if you're feeling a bit adventurous, I would recommend trying a "toner" not a stain. I've found adding a toner to my finish (lacquer) when working with cherry veneer and cherry solid stock to be an excellent way to mellow out the visual differences between the two. Toner is a dye added to the lacquer (or whatever finish you're using), not applied to the wood. TransTint Liquid Dyes, (http://www.homesteadfinishing.com/htdocs/TransTint.htm) are excellent in my opinion. Because of the broad color range options, I would think with a little experimentation, you could match your existing finish quite well with this technique. Good luck.


 
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emanuel leimanis

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Subject : RE: Cherry veneer and darkening with time
Posted : 2008-12-11 1:05 AM
Post #35124 - In reply to #35123
Thanks Steven,

Sounds like I will press a sample tomorrow and test the sanding and finishing methods. I will try the spray & wipe first and then see if I can get a dye version of the same.
The veneer doesn't have shadow lines, it is uniformly darker than when it was new.

Thanks again, I let you how it works out


 
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Don Stephan

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Subject : RE: Cherry veneer and darkening with time
Posted : 2008-12-11 8:30 PM
Post #35125 - In reply to #35122
As long as no sap is involved, any additional veneer and hardwood should over time darken similarly to the QS. I don't think it will continue to darken, so that newer stuff should catch up with it over time. With the piece complete, you can expose it to bright sunlight for several days which will hasten the natural darkening of the newer stuff. I'd do this before finishing just in case the latter would slow down the darkening. Just another option.


 
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mike mcnerney

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Subject : RE: Cherry veneer and darkening with time
Posted : 2008-12-16 4:20 AM
Post #35136 - In reply to #35122
Of course your sample will tell you something, but if you stain it when it is 2-tone I can't imagine it working, & I don't think you can sand the darkend part out. If you want peace of mind & you can swing it get new material.
Mike McNerney


 
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BigRob777

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Subject : RE: Cherry veneer and darkening with time
Posted : 2008-12-16 6:54 AM
Post #35138 - In reply to #35136
Have you looked at the back of the darkened veneer, to see if it's dark too? It seems like that would answer your question about how deep the dark goes and it might be a solution to your problem as well, if it's lighter.
Not speaking from experience here.
Rob
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