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Bob Yeager

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Subject : veneering on a car's exterior
Posted : 2007-04-29 5:25 PM
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I just found this forum today and have enjoyed reading many of the previous threads. I have been veneering for a few years and I have a vacuum press. However, the answer I'm seeking won't "fit my vacuum bag".

I have seen pictures of custom cars with real wood veneer on the outsides such as door panels and roofs with slight convex curves (one of the cars was a late model VW Beetle)...HOW do they do that?? And, what kind of glue would be used for exterior application over the metal??

Bob




 
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Darryl Keil

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Subject : RE: veneering on a car's exterior
Posted : 2007-04-30 10:28 PM
Post #33800 - In reply to #33797
Bob,

There is a technique where you use a plastic film taped to the perimeter of the vacuumed area to suck the veneer directly to the part. This is probably the way to go in this situation.

Epoxy is probably the best glue for your application.

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Darryl Keil


 
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Bob Yeager

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Subject : RE: veneering on a car's exterior
Posted : 2007-05-01 7:00 PM
Post #33801 - In reply to #33800
Thanks Darryl --- Do you think the vacuum bag would/could change the shape of the door panel? How would the veneer lay down over the convex curve without wrinkling? Using epoxy would not be a reversible adhesive if something went wrong...and looks like this could go wrong very quickly.

Thanks for your reply.

Bob


 
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Darryl Keil

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Subject : RE: veneering on a car's exterior
Posted : 2007-05-03 10:16 PM
Post #33802 - In reply to #33801
Bob,

I dont think the vacuum bag will change the shape of the door panel, provided its done right. As long as the convex shape is not severe a little compound bending is doable in a vacuum bag. You can always wet the veneer, then form it in a wet state, and then dry it with newspaper on the door panel. Once its shaped you would glue it in a second operation.

I dont think I would want any kind of reversible adhesive on a car part. The problem with reversible adhesives is they can reverse themselves at time you may not like.

Lots of testing and dry runs would be the way to get the feel of things.

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Darryl Keil


 
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Don Stephan

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Subject : RE: veneering on a car's exterior
Posted : 2007-05-04 7:52 PM
Post #33803 - In reply to #33802
Darryl's second video, Working in a Vacuum, covers veneering curved surfaces, although he is using a bag. I would suggest the video for background info. I'd also think about getting an old door from an auto graveyard and practicing some first. You might also look for a car buffs forum.


 
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Bob Yeager

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Subject : RE: veneering on a car's exterior
Posted : 2007-05-05 3:20 PM
Post #33805 - In reply to #33803
Thanks guys!

Bob
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