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Brian Gray

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Subject : Sand-through...advise????
Posted : 2004-10-01 10:30 PM
Post #31777

I made a pretty big mistake today.

I'm doing four marquetry table tops, all of them stack cut.

I sanded through the first that came out of the press. ARRRRRRRGH!!!!!! My wife heard my obscenities from the house.

I'll include a link with pics.....you can click on the pics to enlarge....

At the link, you will see the mistake with a detail photo, along with one of the table tops that I managed not to screw up, so you can see the design beyond all the gum tape.

http://www.briangray.net/projectdetail.cfm?ProjectID=23

I have a few exit strategies, but I thought that I'd get some advise here before telling my thoughts about how to get out of this one.....by the way, I will say that one of my strategies is to just hang it on the shop wall as a reminder....screw it....and unfortunately, I'm leaning towards that solution....don't forget that there's three others that came out fine....

The salvage strategy is kind of obvious, but I'm wondering if anyone has anything creative that I haven't thought of....

Thanks...now having some wine and calming down....a little.

Brian





 
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Brian Gray

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Subject : RE: Sand-through...advise????
Posted : 2004-10-01 10:43 PM
Post #31778 - In reply to #31777

by the way...

design critiques welcome.

Even though I've committed all four of the table tops to cutting the marquetry and two to the press, there's some things that came out not quite how I liked....(looked great on paper, and came out a little different to my eye....)

Again, I don't want to tell what they are in my mind, I'd rather see what everyone here has to say, and see if it's similar to my thoughts.....

thanks

bg


 
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Carl Morrell

 
Subject : RE: Sand-through...advise????
Posted : 2004-10-03 11:29 AM
Post #31780 - In reply to #31777

You want opinions? I have plenty of them.

The pinwheel in the middle idea is really neat. However since it is the same color as the background, it is lost. Pick a different color to bring it out.

Also the leaves all seem to be the same color. So if the intent is an autumn theme, it would be really cool if a few of the leaves are different colors such as yellow (yellowheart, stinkwood) red (redblood, chatke viga)purple (purpleheart).

As far as the sandthough goes, how many hours did it take to get the top to that point? A bunch I bet. You can route out the sanded out pieces and put replacements in. The problem is when you go to sand those down, you may end up sanding the adjacent pieces? But if you have a hundred hours into where you got, it is worth the risk to spend the extra 2-3 hours to fix it. Just my opinion.


 
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Darryl Keil

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Subject : RE: Sand-through...advise????
Posted : 2004-10-04 12:45 PM
Post #31783 - In reply to #31777

Brian,

I can almost feel that feeling in the pit of my stomach, I know what its like.

All in all I have only come up with two solutions when it's happened to me. One is to rout the area out and put in new veneer, the other it to touch it up with paints or magic markers. I dont think the touch up idea will work in this instance.

Because of the amount of labor it appears is in this piece I would vote for routing. If it was just a regular panel I would ditch it and start over, but thats just my opinion.

Sincerely
Darryl Keil


 
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Roger S. Barga

 
Subject : RE: Sand-through...advise????
Posted : 2004-10-04 4:43 PM
Post #31784 - In reply to #31777

Hi Brian,

Sorry to see this happen to such a nice panel. I agree that routing out the damaged section is worth the effort. Since the sand-through area is small relative to the leaves in the marquetry, you might want to "inlay" an extra leaf over the sand-through. I purchased an attachement for my Dremel rotary tool from a guitar supply company that turns a dremel into a micro plunge router. There are a handful of online articles on how to do inlay (esp for guitars) using a rotary tool, so this might be a good learning experience.

Cheers,
Roger



 
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Jimbo

 
Subject : RE: Sand-through...advise????
Posted : 2004-10-26 4:04 PM
Post #31827 - In reply to #31777

I couldn't open your page, so I can't comment on this specifically.

I fixed a sand through in a quilted maple top. I doubt the method would work for you, exactly, but here it is in case it geves you some ideas.

The table was big and expensive and we were way committed to it. The quilted maple was fantastic. I had a couple extra leaves of it, but that was all we could get.

I taped over a matching section of an extra leaf with several layers of clear packing tape. I sanded through this patch until the edges feathered out into nothing, but the center was a bit bigger than my blivet.

I drenched this patch with crazy glue and put it in place, smoothing it out to avoid bubbles. I used a padded board, I think, to spread the pressure around. With crazy glue, you just need a good, short anerobic matchup to set the glue.

When it set, I scraped/peeled the tape, sanded it out, and lacquered it. Thank God it was quilted, it blended in pretty well. I might have had to address a bubble or lifted edge or two. You could just see faint shadows where the grain lines were mismatched by 1/32" or so. It looked like I had Photoshopped it in.


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