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Dean Graber

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Subject : MDF irregularities
Posted : 2009-06-14 6:29 AM
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was speaking with finisher and have noticed this myself. Large table tops with slight ripples in surface I say it's MDF. Is there a way to eliminate? do you run MDF through widebelt before layup? He says he's seen one guy that doesn't get that? is it another brand of MDF? thanks for your comments.


 
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Don Stephan

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Subject : RE: MDF irregularities
Posted : 2009-06-14 1:36 PM
Post #35503 - In reply to #35501

Dean:
Your question seemingly deals with "veneered" MDF so the wrinkling could be either inherent in the surface of the MDF, which I've never seen, or in the layer of glue under the veneer. The latter could result from not using a clamping caul at least 1/4" thick over the veneer. Another possible cause might be too much time between laying the veneer in the adhesive and applying clamping pressure, allowing the adhesive to "grab" the veneer too tightly before clamping pressure was applied through a caul. If the adhesive was contact cement and the veneer was exposed to heavy coat of lacquer thinner early in the finishing process, the thinner may soften the contact adhesive and allow the veneer to shift, but don't know if this would cause regular wrinkling.

I HAVE seen on one board ten years ago a 3/4" particle core plywood that had a slight wave in the surface.

Unless you've seen plain MDF that has surface ripples, I'd first suspect the veneering process for introducing a ripple.

Just my two cents.


 
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Darryl Keil

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Subject : RE: MDF irregularities
Posted : 2009-06-14 7:08 PM
Post #35508 - In reply to #35501

Dean,

In all the years I've used MDF I have never seen any with ripples. Doesnt mean it cant exist, just never seen it myself. I've not been picky about the source either, whatever is in stock and gets delivered is what I use.

Darryl


 
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Dean Graber

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Subject : RE: MDF irregularities
Posted : 2009-06-15 6:45 AM
Post #35509 - In reply to #35508

Thanks guys, I just remember one of mine which was glued with unibond and 3/4" caul, sprayed w/conversion by another guy, and in the right light there were waves. Would a better glue spreader work (I currently use foam rollers)? or do you increase vacume on bigger pcs?


 
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BigRob777

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Subject : RE: MDF irregularities
Posted : 2009-06-16 2:49 AM
Post #35513 - In reply to #35509

I've never seen rippled mdf either. It would seem that the manufacturing process would eliminate that possibility. Then again, I haven't used it for that much other than work bench tops, yet.
Rob


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