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Nickao65

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Subject : Floor Medallions
Posted : 2006-09-21 5:01 PM
Post #33389
Hi this is my first post. I make hardwood floor Inlays and sell them on eBay. I have been using a Plano vertical press to adhere the 3/8" hardwood to the plywood,the results are hit or miss.

My question is what system would be best for this application? I have never used a vacuum press.

If you want to take a peak at the Inlays to help you answer my question go to ebay and search item# 200028543560.

I would appreciate any help you can give. I have a 36 x 72 inch medallion due Oct 15th and I am afraid to use my existing Plano press. It tends to leave voids or pockets where the hardwood does not contact the plywood. This will not be good when the installer starts sanding it with a 300 lb sander!

Thanks,

Nick




 
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Darryl Keil

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Subject : RE: Floor Medallions
Posted : 2006-09-21 9:08 PM
Post #33391 - In reply to #33389
Nick,

If you're doing this a lot every day then I would get a frame type vacuum press for easy access and loading. If its less frequent pressing then a vacuum bag would work fine. I'm not sure how you hold the pieces to the plywood before pressing but if they are tacked down in some way then sliding the panels into a bag should not pose a problem.

I have a number of customers who use vacuum pressing for flooring and get very good results due to the bags ability to accommodate any thickness variation in the flooring pieces.

Sincerely
Darryl Keil


 
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Nickao65

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Subject : Floor Medallions
Posted : 2006-09-22 1:49 AM
Post #33392 - In reply to #33391
Thanks for the info.

I edge glue every piece together first to make a hardwood top and believe it or not it is quite strong. That titebond III rocks, I use blue tape to Pull/clamp the pieces together and in 30 minutes it already holding enough to where I can pick up the little pieces as a whole.

I can throw this hardwood "wear layer" on the floor and the medallion will not break at the glue joints. That is how I get virtually no need for filler in between shapes. As far as I know I am the only one who does it this way.

Then I glue the hardwood top as a whole to the plywood.

Nick


 
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Don Stephan

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Subject : RE: Floor Medallions
Posted : 2006-10-16 8:16 AM
Post #33412 - In reply to #33392
I might be all wrong, but gluing the medallion in two steps sounds like it could create problems, as it seems possible for the assembly not to be uniformly flat. Clamping the assembled medallion to a substrate then would either have voids between the medallion and substrate or crack some of the joints between inlay pieces as it conforms to a flat substrate.

I have used two part urea formaldehyde glue for plywood joints with no failure when I needed a long assembly time. The mixed UF was poured into an old glue bottle, squeezed onto the edges and spread with a glue brush. Worked very well. Depending on how long it takes to edge glue the pieces of the medallion perhaps you could glue the pieces together and to the substrate in one operation. Granted, there's a chance one or more joints might open up when the medallion in flattened against the substrate if they were not milled perfectly, but blue tape would pull the edges together regardless of the type of glue used. Another option would be to glue the medallion pieces together as you are now, then flatten the bottom on a wide belt sander. Still a risk of cracking a glue joint ...


 
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craig tufankjian

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Subject : RE: Floor Medallions
Posted : 2006-10-16 8:41 AM
Post #33413 - In reply to #33389
YOUR APPLICATION HAS VACUPRESS WRTTEN ALL OVER IT. there is a product you can use to put over yor medallion prior to putting it in the bag to keep it from moving around, when your done piecing together your medallion use poly carpet protector. its nothing more than poly with self stick adveshive on it. looks like clear wrap so you can see thru it. when i make a large order of table tops for stickley i cover each top with this stuff to keep each top from being scratched. you'vve probably seen it on commercial job sites. its rolled out over newly installed carpet to proctect it from stains. thousand and one uses. really big in the moasic table top business.
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