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Andy Wilkins

 
Subject : Unibond 800 questions
Posted : 2000-03-24 2:20 AM
Post #30475

Hi,I have been recommended Unibond 800 by a friend. Four questions:1) Does the `rigid glue line' mean that the glue is quite brittle sothat over time it may fail due to the working of the substrate/veneer?Should Unibond 800 only be used on substrates such as MDF or plywoodwhich undergo only small dimensional changes due to changes inhumidity?2) The glue cleans up with water but is also highly water resistant.These seems strange to me. Often glues which can be cleaned upwith water are not very water resistant (or is this only forwater-based glues such as PVA and not for resins which cure using acatalyst). Do water-based or spirit-based finishes weaken the glue?3) You primarily market it as a glue for veneering. How would it workas a glue for general construction? Would joints be stronger orweaker than those glued with PVA, or a standard epoxy resin?4) Would you ship your glue to Ireland?Thanksandy



 
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Darryl Keil

 
Subject : Unibond 800 questions
Posted : 2000-03-26 9:28 PM
Post #30488 - In reply to #30475

Dear Andy,Here are my answers,1. Rigid really means hard enough to hold the veneer from moving so the joints look good yearsto come and the surface will not produce fissures over time. Any substrate is acceptable,plywood is glued with the same kind of glue Unibond 800 is.2. Unibond 800 is water clean up only before the catalization has taken place. Once it hascatalized water no longer effects it. You really need to clean your spreading tools up right away as the longer you wait after mixing the harder it is to clean up.3.Unibond 800 can be used as a general wood glue although its advantages stand out mostfor veneering. It does not really hold better than other glues, just harder and more rigid.Unibond has no cold creep like a PVA. I would not use Unibond on joints that need a little flexlike chairs.4.Yes we can and do ship internationally : Hi,: I have been recommended Unibond 800 by a friend. Four questions:: 1) Does the `rigid glue line' mean that the glue is quite brittle so: that over time it may fail due to the working of the substrate/veneer?: Should Unibond 800 only be used on substrates such as MDF or plywood: which undergo only small dimensional changes due to changes in: humidity?: 2) The glue cleans up with water but is also highly water resistant.: These seems strange to me. Often glues which can be cleaned up: with water are not very water resistant (or is this only for: water-based glues such as PVA and not for resins which cure using a: catalyst). Do water-based or spirit-based finishes weaken the glue?: 3) You primarily market it as a glue for veneering. How would it work: as a glue for general construction? Would joints be stronger or: weaker than those glued with PVA, or a standard epoxy resin?: 4) Would you ship your glue to Ireland?: Thanks: andy




 
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Randy Avent

 
Subject : Unibond 800 questions
Posted : 2000-11-21 8:39 PM
Post #29898 - In reply to #30488

I'm having a hard time ordering any kind of epoxy for veneering right now - I guess Rockler no longer carries Unibond and Constantines is out of their epoxy until late December. Does anybody have a phone number for where I can order Unibond or some equivalent veneering epoxy?Thanksrandy: Dear Andy,: Here are my answers,: 1. Rigid really means hard enough to hold the veneer from moving so the joints look good years: to come and the surface will not produce fissures over time. Any substrate is acceptable,: plywood is glued with the same kind of glue Unibond 800 is.: 2. Unibond 800 is water clean up only before the catalization has taken place. Once it has: catalized water no longer effects it. You really need to clean your spreading tools up right : away as the longer you wait after mixing the harder it is to clean up.: 3.Unibond 800 can be used as a general wood glue although its advantages stand out most: for veneering. It does not really hold better than other glues, just harder and more rigid.: Unibond has no cold creep like a PVA. I would not use Unibond on joints that need a little flex: like chairs.: 4.Yes we can and do ship internationally : : Hi,: : I have been recommended Unibond 800 by a friend. Four questions:: : 1) Does the `rigid glue line' mean that the glue is quite brittle so: : that over time it may fail due to the working of the substrate/veneer?: : Should Unibond 800 only be used on substrates such as MDF or plywood: : which undergo only small dimensional changes due to changes in: : humidity?: : 2) The glue cleans up with water but is also highly water resistant.: : These seems strange to me. Often glues which can be cleaned up: : with water are not very water resistant (or is this only for: : water-based glues such as PVA and not for resins which cure using a: : catalyst). Do water-based or spirit-based finishes weaken the glue?: : 3) You primarily market it as a glue for veneering. How would it work: : as a glue for general construction? Would joints be stronger or: : weaker than those glued with PVA, or a standard epoxy resin?: : 4) Would you ship your glue to Ireland?: : Thanks: : andy




 
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Andy O'Shaughnessy

 
Subject : Unibond 800 questions
Posted : 2000-03-24 4:56 PM
Post #30477 - In reply to #30475

I also would like to know the answers to the above questions. And I have one further question; How is Unibond-800 at gap filling. I have a mortis and tenon situation where the tenon has somne slop in it and is a little lose(about 1/2 a playing card thickness. Will I still get a tight joint?




 
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Darryl Keil

 
Subject : Unibond 800 questions
Posted : 2000-03-26 9:33 PM
Post #30489 - In reply to #30477

Dear Andy,Yes, Unibond does have some gap filling properties. It is commonly used for mortise andtenon in door construction. It should do fine for your application provided it is not for chairs.Unibond is a little to rigid for chair joinery where you need a small amount of flex.sincerelyDarryl Keil: I also would like to know the answers to the above questions. And I have one further question; How is Unibond-800 at gap filling. I have a mortis and tenon situation where the tenon has somne slop in it and is a little lose(about 1/2 a playing card thickness. Will I still get a tight joint?




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