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Bob D

 
Subject : Cylinder Marquery Pressing
Posted : 2002-03-22 10:42 PM
Post #29813

This is, most probably, much too advanced for a beginner, but I would really like to do a marquery veneer layup over a beverage glass. Here is the planned method: Vacuum pressing (bag) is obviously the only way to do this? The substrate is Stainless Steel, so I intend to use a polyurethane adhesive? The caul needs to be very flexible (compound curves) so I have scrounged up some 1/4" solid rubber sheet and will use rubber (cut from auto inner-tube) bands for temporary clamp-up. The interior of the beverage container will be filled with a wood plug and cotton batting tightly packed between the cup and plug. The veneers I'm using are an assortment of tight burls, mostly elm and walnut with some burl maple.Here (finally) are my questions1) Is my plan correct or should I change some of the materials intended?(2) What have I neglected to plan for? Can you offer some alternative suggestions?(3) I would like to have a "piano finish" and thought about polyester (epoxy) bar top coating over a shellac sealler. Would something else seal better and allow the beverage glass to be used?(4) Am I nuts for trying this? (no need to answer this one, I already have many responses here! (-:Thanks for any help you can offer!Bob D.



 
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Darryl Keil

 
Subject : Cylinder Marquery Pressing
Posted : 2002-03-23 9:30 AM
Post #29814 - In reply to #29813

Dear Bob,It's definately doable but I'm not sure you need a vacuum press to do it. I think just longs strips of the inner tube rubber wound tightly around the container will do the job just fine. Polyurethane glue does not need the kind of pressure other wood glues need. I also dont think you need a shellac sealer, using epoxy right from the start will work fine. Use epoxy over polyester it will hold up better. I hope you beverage container is a straight cylinder otherwise veneering it will be a major problem.SincerelyDarryl Keil: This is, most probably, much too advanced for a beginner, but I would : really like to do a marquery veneer layup over a beverage glass. : Here is the planned method: Vacuum pressing (bag) is obviously the : only way to do this? The substrate is Stainless Steel, so I intend : to use a polyurethane adhesive? The caul needs to be very flexible : (compound curves) so I have scrounged up some 1/4" solid rubber sheet : and will use rubber (cut from auto inner-tube) bands for temporary : clamp-up. The interior of the beverage container will be filled with : a wood plug and cotton batting tightly packed between the cup and : plug. The veneers I'm using are an assortment of tight burls, mostly : elm and walnut with some burl maple.: Here (finally) are my questions:: (1) Is my plan correct or should I change some of the materials : intended?: (2) What have I neglected to plan for? Can you offer some : alternative suggestions?: (3) I would like to have a "piano finish" and thought about : polyester (epoxy) bar top coating over a shellac sealler. Would : something else seal better and allow the beverage glass to be used?: (4) Am I nuts for trying this? (no need to answer this one, I already : have many responses here! (-:: Thanks for any help you can offer!: Bob D.




 
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Carl Morrell

 
Subject : Cylinder Marquery Pressing
Posted : 2002-03-23 10:45 AM
Post #29815 - In reply to #29814

Assuming your container is a cylendar, you may want to consider creating your layup on a piece of backer veneer,and gluing it flat. Then apply to cylinder. This makes the application to the cylinder simpler and less critical.




 
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Darryl Keil

 
Subject : Cylinder Marquery Pressing
Posted : 2002-03-24 11:38 AM
Post #29817 - In reply to #29815

Dear Bob & Carl,I had thought of suggesting this Carl, but my experience with two ply is that it would not bend around such a tight radius. Worth a try Bob, with a sample to find out if it might work.SincerelyDarryl Keil: Assuming your container is a cylendar, you may want to consider creating your layup on a piece of backer veneer,and gluing it flat. Then apply to cylinder. This makes the application to the cylinder simpler and less critical.




 
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Carl Morrell

 
Subject : Cylinder Marquery Pressing
Posted : 2002-03-24 12:00 PM
Post #29818 - In reply to #29817

Darryl,I was wondering why you did not suggest that.Carl




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