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Peter Ness

 
Subject : Veneering Question re- sleighbed curves
Posted : 2002-06-21 12:16 AM
Post #29207

Hello,I have a cherry sleighbed that I have many times attempted to veneer specifically the curved foot board and headboard, First time with contact cement and rolling (terrible bubbles) second with PVA Glue and a custom caul and veneer press screws (completely nineteenth century, massive amount of work and still bubbles after months of finish).Now I am awaiting my vacuumpress which If i had any sense I should have purchased long ago. Anyone debating purchasing one - I have probably spent 5 times its cost in time and materials making mistakes without one. My question is I don't want to take the bed apart and the headboard won't fit on the vacuum bag and it weighs a ton. My plan instead is to make a 3 or 5 ply veneer panel with Unibond 800 to the size of the curve (about 30x60) and then take the flat bagged panel and clamp it to the existing curve on the bed with 60" angle irons and band clamps. about every 3 inchesI got this idea from the pictures of the stairbuilding set in use. Once the panel is dry, I plan to use yellow glue to attach to the new curved panel to the existing curve - I think this would be fine since the 3 or 5 plys would be thick enough to retain the curve without springback - basically like making a precurved, very think veneer that can just be glued on no problem.Has anyone used a similar or different solution to the same problem?



 
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Darryl Keil

 
Subject : Veneering Question re- sleighbed curves
Posted : 2002-06-21 7:03 PM
Post #29212 - In reply to #29207

Peter,I think your idea will work fine except I would not go to 5 ply as it will get too stiff. At the most 3 ply.Another option is to make a two ply in the flat and then contact cement the center area and yellow glue about 1" around the edges. Normally I am always trashing contact cement for veneer work but once you have created a two ply the veneer cannot buckle or bubble and the contact cement is only holding the two ply down, not trying to prevent movement. The perimeter of yellow glue assures that the edges stay down tight. Of course I would prefer that your complete panel be pressed in the bag but under the circumstances this method works well. You could also do this as a three ply. No matter how many plys you use I recommend you glue it onto the bed the same day you lay up the plys as the Unibond 800 will not be fully rigid on the same day and will conform to the curves better with less resistance. Lay up your plys first thing in the morning and put it on the bed at the end of the day.SincerelyDarryl Keil: Hello,: I have a cherry sleighbed that I have many times attempted to veneer : specifically the curved foot board and headboard, First time with : contact cement and rolling (terrible bubbles) second with PVA Glue : and a custom caul and veneer press screws (completely nineteenth : century, massive amount of work and still bubbles after months of : finish).: Now I am awaiting my vacuumpress which If i had any sense I should : have purchased long ago. Anyone debating purchasing one - I have : probably spent 5 times its cost in time and materials making mistakes : without one. My question is I don't want to take the bed apart and : the headboard won't fit on the vacuum bag and it weighs a ton. : My plan instead is to make a 3 or 5 ply veneer panel with Unibond 800 : to the size of the curve (about 30x60) and then take the flat bagged : panel and clamp it to the existing curve on the bed with 60" angle : irons and band clamps. about every 3 inches: I got this idea from the pictures of the stairbuilding set in use. : Once the panel is dry, I plan to use yellow glue to attach to the new : curved panel to the existing curve - I think this would be fine since : the 3 or 5 plys would be thick enough to retain the curve without : springback - basically like making a precurved, very think veneer : that can just be glued on no problem.: Has anyone used a similar or different solution to the same problem?




 
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Lindsay Nicol

 
Subject : Sleigh Bed plans
Posted : 2002-09-01 3:33 PM
Post #29402 - In reply to #29212

HiDoes anyone know where plans for a sleigh bed can be purchased?I'm would like to make a Super King size Sleigh bed from oak. I've seen too sleigh beds that I like, one in "So to Bed", in Glasgow, one on a web site. The first cost £3,000 + (for the frame only), the second was even more. Any help appreciated. (plans must have curved head and tail boards, not just the posts).cheersLindsay




 
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Lindsay Nicol

 
Subject : Sleigh Bed plans
Posted : 2002-09-01 3:34 PM
Post #29403 - In reply to #29402

: Hi: Does anyone know where plans for a sleigh bed can be purchased?: I'm would like to make a Super King size Sleigh bed from oak. I've seen too sleigh beds that I like, one in "So to Bed", in Glasgow, one on a web site. The first cost £3,000 + (for the frame only), the second was even more. Any help appreciated. (plans must have curved head and tail boards, not just the posts).: cheers: Lindsay




 
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Peter Ness

 
Subject : Veneering Question re- sleighbed curves
Posted : 2002-06-21 11:35 PM
Post #29213 - In reply to #29212

Daryl,Thanks for the advice and thanks for my favorite web forum I have found so far.I am going to try your suggestion since I think it will be easier, I bought enough veneer to do a do-over if I screw up.Thanks again,Peter




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