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Andrew Thompson

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Subject : deep, steep form
Posted : 2012-11-03 11:01 AM
Post #36778

Hello all,

I've used vacuum bags quite a bit in the past, and am now considering a system in light of my current project.

I need to lam up a 12" wide "U-shaped" 5/16" thick lamination over a form that is roughly a 1ft cube with sides that taper out at about 3 degrees. Picturing the "U" upside down over the form, the two top edges have a relatively tight radius of about 1". I've done much shallower laminations in the past with good success, but in this case, I need 3 sides of the "U" to pull tight against the form, and am not sure if a form "inside-the-bag" approach would cut it. I've never used the "outside" approach but have concerns about getting the lams to tightly bend over the 1" radius on the top edges of the form.

For the purposes of prototyping I'm making a male-female form to clamp it up manually, but if a vacuum approach would work it would make tweaking the form half the work, as I'd only have one half to shape--not to mention a great excuse to get the vacuum system that's been on my wish list for a while.

Many thanks in advance for the help.

Cheers,
Andrew...
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Darryl Keil

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Subject : RE: deep, steep form
Posted : 2012-11-03 8:48 PM
Post #36779 - In reply to #36778

I think with your radius being so tight having the form in the bag is probably not going to work. Even the outside technique may be problematic. If I was going to attempt it with the bag outside the form I would make radiused corners that I would clamp on top of the difficult part and then the bag should lay fairly smooth on the flat stretches with just minimal clamping.

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Andrew Thompson

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Subject : RE: deep, steep form
Posted : 2012-11-04 8:45 AM
Post #36780 - In reply to #36779

Thanks for the reply Darryl. I'll keep going with my male-female form for now, but good tip about pushing the corners down with a radiused caul.

Cheers,
Andrew...


 
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Don Stephan

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Subject : RE: deep, steep form
Posted : 2012-11-04 6:27 PM
Post #36781 - In reply to #36780

Andrew:

Just curious, what are you planning to use to make the lamination, and have you tested the flexibility over this tight radius? My first thought is that very thin individual layers of veneer will have to be used with the grain always running across the U rather than alternating directions.


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