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Brad_bb

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Subject : Glue ups
Posted : 2012-05-31 6:45 PM
Post #36647

I have need to glue up two 1 inch Black Walnut boards together to make a thicker piece of stock. These particular boards are 1 inch X 12 inch X 6 feet long. I read in another thread that Unibond 800 would hold up for such a solid wood glue up.

Someone just steered me to Vacu press as a means to do this glue up. Is Vacupress bags a good way to evenly apply pressure for such solid wood glue ups? It seems like it would be easier than messing with clamps for larger glue ups. Does this method apply more pressure than clamps? I know it would be more even. Note:I did read the recomendation to glue sanded surfaces instead of planed when gluing solid wood. thanks.


 
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Darryl Keil

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Subject : RE: Glue ups
Posted : 2012-06-01 10:28 AM
Post #36648 - In reply to #36647

Brad,

You're correct that a vacuum press applies very even pressure, but does not apply more pressure than clamps. Accumulatively, vacuum often applies more overall pressure depending on how closes clamps are placed together. Using clamps provides a "hot spot" of pressure that dissipates the further you go from the clamp head. A vacuum press doesnt do this. Also, vacuum draws the glue into the cell structure through a process called "degassing". This gives you good glue penetration.

You'll have good results gluing up your two boards with vacuum as long as they are machined good and flat.

Darryl Keil


 
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Don Stephan

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Subject : RE: Glue ups
Posted : 2012-06-03 7:21 PM
Post #36650 - In reply to #36647

Often I've read that pressure spreads out from a clamp pad 45 degrees in all directions. Thus clamping pressure spreads much more when clamping a 3" thick board than when clamping a 1" thick piece.

With boards 12" wide it's going to be difficult to apply anything near uniform clamping pressure when the pieces are only 1" thick. Clamping cauls across the width will help apply pressure across the width, but not along the length. And lots of discrete clamps would allow a twist to be incorporated in the assembly.

It would add cost, but the best solution would be to flatten and straighten a 10/4 board, edge gluing two or three pieces to get the needed width if necessary. The next best solution likely would be a vacuum press using an adhesive with sufficient open time. My two cents.


 
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craig tufankjian

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Subject : RE: Glue ups
Posted : 2012-06-04 1:38 PM
Post #36651 - In reply to #36650

Can't speak for 1 x 12 x 72 application (solid wood) but 1/4 x 5 1/2 glued to stack laminated material used for stiles on doors it works like a charm. 3/4 to 3/4 large panel glue ups works well also.

Hit the wood with a toothing blade if you have one.

If you use clamps you have to place cauls on top of what your gluing up anyway to equally distribute the clamping pressure


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