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Steve Holman

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Subject : Is there a cure for veneer checking once it has occured?
Posted : 2011-11-07 9:02 PM
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A very good customer called to say a lot of the work I've done for her in the past ten years felt "rough." When I looked at it, all the veneered surfaces did indeed feel rough, while the solid wood portions were still smooth. I thought the problem might be a finish issue: one veneer supplier is always touting the benefits of "flexible finishes" (urethanes) on veneer rather than more brittle catalyzed lacquers and varnishes; I thought the roughness might be the finish cracking. The more I looked into the problem, though, the more it appears the issue is veneer checking, which is telegraphing through the finish and giving a rough feel. Most of this work is pressed without crossbanding directly onto MDF with Unibond, and finished with MagnaLac pre-cat.

I have three questions:

1. Short of re-veneering all this work, is there any way of correcting the problem? I have read in a previous thread the suggestion of removing the finish and coating the work in epoxy, sanding it flat, and refinishing. Is there another solution that is simpler?

2. My shop is not humidity controlled, and never will be. Is there a way to avoid checking in the future?

3. Would I be better off using paper-backed veneers, which are essentially cross-banded from the get-go?


 
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Darryl Keil

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Subject : RE: Is there a cure for veneer checking once it has occured?
Posted : 2011-11-08 8:20 AM
Post #36500 - In reply to #36498

Steve,

Question for you, what kind of veneer was it that checked? Is this an anomaly or does this happen frequently?

Darryl Keil


 
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Steve Holman

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Subject : RE: Is there a cure for veneer checking once it has occured?
Posted : 2011-11-08 10:15 AM
Post #36503 - In reply to #36500

Darryl, the worst checking occurred with Karelian birch burl (rotary sliced), but also with sawn figured anigre. Both are about 1/32" (or 1/40" whatever the standard is these days). Most of my work I never see again (nor hear about!) once it leaves the shop, so I can't be absolutely sure it's a one time event. It is true, though, that I've never had a call like this one complaining about rough surfaces. I hope that it's an anomaly!

Thanks.


 
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Darryl Keil

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Subject : RE: Is there a cure for veneer checking once it has occured?
Posted : 2011-11-09 4:00 PM
Post #36507 - In reply to #36503

Steve,

I've had it happen on a few veneers like mahogany crotch and macassar ebony. Thats why I asked what the veneers were. I think at this point the veneer is pretty stablized and I would do one of two things. Sand the finish thoroughly, spray some coats, then sand that down and spray the final top coat.

Second, would be to sand it down to the bare wood, skim coat with epoxy or super glue and when its thoroughly dry sand again and then put down the finish. One customer recently used super glue and claimed excellent results.

Obviously the first approach is easier and probably sufficient but if you want the bullet proof approach then I would do the second method.

Darryl Keil


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