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emanuel leimanis

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Subject : Curved drawer face with inset panel
Posted : 2008-12-13 5:27 PM
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I am starting on a project which requires 7 drawer faces on a 54" radius. The drawer faces vary in height from 13" to 7".

I have Mahogany Crotch veneer for the face. I was going to bookmatch and 2 ply this face.

The design is to match to existing pieces with a rail & stile frame around a recessed inset panel, with a panel moulding covering the transition step. I am using rift cut cherry veneer for the r&s border, 2 1/2" max. width, and would like to preassemble this onto a 1/8" substate, MDF or ply.

My plan was to press the core, do the 2nd press for the 2 ply face and backer. then a 3rd press for the cherry border assembly.

Do I need an additional backer for the border assembly? What would be my best choice for material for the core? One local supplier has a 5mm Flex Form product, not used it before.

Thanks for any help and ideas.

Emanuel Leimanis


 
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Don Stephan

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Subject : RE: Curved drawer face with inset panel
Posted : 2008-12-14 6:29 PM
Post #35130 - In reply to #35127

My apologies for being slow, but I can't understand your project. You are making curved frame and panel drawer fronts? If so, I understand using flexible product of some sort to press up the curved panel, but how are you planning to make the curved rails, and are you planning to also shape the front surface of the styles to match the curves of the rails? How are you going to join the rails and styles, and are you veneering them with cherry before or after assembly of the drawer fronts? Finally, are you planning to veneer the edges of the rails and styles that will show when the drawer is open?


 
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emanuel leimanis

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Subject : RE: Curved drawer face with inset panel
Posted : 2008-12-14 10:33 PM
Post #35132 - In reply to #35130

Hi Don,
Thanks for looking at this.
What I am trying to do is create a curved drawer face that looks like a curved rail and stile drawer face. My first step would be to make curved substrate and lay up the Mahogany on the face and backer on rear.
I wanted to then assemble a frame to resemble a rail & stile face. This frame will be only veneer on 1/8" MDF or similar material.
This frame would then be glued to the curved drawer face. A small panel moulding will cover the edge on the inside of the drawer face.
On the outside edges of the drawer face I was going to cover with 1/8" thich cherry edge beading.

I am in fact not making a true frame and panel drawer front, but I am trying to get the look.
I hope this helps you understand what I am trying to do. Any suggestions are gladly recieved.

Emanuel


 
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Don Stephan

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Subject : RE: Curved drawer face with inset panel
Posted : 2008-12-20 11:19 AM
Post #35140 - In reply to #35132

Sorry for delayed response but been working late every night.

I'd suggest you start with a copy of Darryl Keil's 2nd video on working on curved surfaces, if you don't already have it.

You can build a form on which to bend the "panel" substrate, although I'd make the "panel" the full width of the drawer front plus perhaps 3/4" on all sides. You'll have to experiment with MDF to see if you can find a sufficiently thin sheet that will bend to your desired radius, and use one of the rigid glue options mentioned in the above video.

After pressing the panel I'd veneer both sides. Then you can build up the "frame" on top of the panel, but I think you'd have to use one piece (a hollow rectangle) for each layer building up the frame, rather than four pieces (rails and styles) to avoid joint telegraphing. Try to build the drawer fronts carefully so that you keep a reference edge throughout.

After the frame is built up, then apply a surface veneer. Trimming of the four edges likely will require a form to hold it level will passing by the table saw blade. You might find it easiest to build an accurate table saw sled to keep the corners at 90 degrees if your miter gauge isn't up to the task. (Build the sled as large as you can, because you'll use it constantly in the future.)

After the drawer front is cut to final size you can veneer the outer edges.

I think bodeliction molding would cover the inside surface of your "frame" as well as come up onto the top of the frame so that the inside edge of the frame doesn't have to be perfect.

This sounds like a substantial challenge, which is perhaps why I've never seen frame and panel drawer fronts. Might be worth making one start to finish and then evaluate if feasible.

Good luck with it.


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