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Subject : Applying Veneer to Cabinet Top
Posted : 2004-09-21 10:30 PM
Post #31760
I have an unfinished veneered cabinet that I would like to change the veneer on the top. Since I cannot remove the top (it is integrated into the case), I cannot use the vacuum press. The top is 24 x 18 inches. How would you recommend I go about applying the veneer?

I'm familiar with contact cement as a possiblity, but I am not thrilled with it's likely longevity. Also, I've never used contact cement on raw veneer (only paper backed on a repair) and am not sure how this would work. Also, I'm familiar with the yellow glue and iron method but haven't been to succesful with it.

As an FYI, the new top would have some very simple marquetry on it and the top would be a very lightly used (i.e. it isn't a table top its a lingerie chest).

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Brian


 
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Darryl Keil

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Subject : RE: Applying Veneer to Cabinet Top
Posted : 2004-09-23 12:03 PM
Post #31762 - In reply to #31760
Brian,

There are a couple of ways you can go at it but one I strongly suggest against is contact cement, especially on raw veneer with marquetry in it. The easiest solution is to make a two ply. A two ply is just your face veneer glued to a backer veneer at 90 degrees. This will stablize your veneer making it acceptable to be used with contact cement. I would mask 1" around the top of you cabinet and the two ply, roll contact cement in the center area, remove the masking and apply yellow glue. This way the center is held with the contact cement and can get clamps around the edges to clamp the yellow glue.

The other option is to vacuum press right to your cabinet. With this method you drape a piece of plastic over the top and tape it well around the edge. Put a nipple patch in the center plastic sheet with a bleeder fabric such as EvacuNet under the plastic and on top of the caul for air evacuation. Your pump will need to run continuously in this situation as air will be drawn right through your top.

Sincerely
Darryl Keil


 
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rene

 
Subject : RE: Applying Veneer to Cabinet Top
Posted : 2005-07-08 12:32 AM
Post #32302 - In reply to #31762
i just read this post and have a similar situation. i am veneering a cab.21x21x48. i've already veneered the inside surfaces. the outside will end up looking like a xmas present all wrapped up with a 4 way diamond pattern on top with the veneer continuing down the sides.can i just put bag sealer around the edges with a caul and some breather cloth and go for it? does the inside need to be airtight or will the pump constantly run and will this kill the pump?thanks for any help you can offer....rene


 
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Subject : RE: Applying Veneer to Cabinet Top
Posted : 2005-07-08 8:49 AM
Post #32303 - In reply to #32302
Rene,

Your pump will definitely run constantly as there is no way you can get a good seal using this method. How your pump will handle it depends on what the CFM vacuum flow is and what type of pump it is. I would do a dry run without the veneer and glue to see what level of vacuum you achieve. Ideally it would be good to get 20"HG or better but you can get away with 15"HG provide you dont use a white or yellow glue.

If you tell me what you are using for a vacuum pump I can give some idea of how it will function in this situation.

Sincerely
Darryl Keil
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