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Brian Sanders

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Subject : Veneerd Floating Shelves
Posted : 2004-01-09 12:35 PM
Post #31187

I am curently pondering how to construct a contemporary wall system using a combination of Beech and Mahogony veneers. The Wall itself is Beech veneer and fairly simple work. However, the floating shelves are something I have never done before. They are 2" thick, 2' wide and protrude 14" to 16" from the wall. They must also hold a moderate amount of weight (15-lbs.) I don't think a pinch cleat will work. The hardware I've seen on store bought floating shelves seem cheap and not quite strong enough. My questions are #1--Is industrial particle board strong enough for this use or should I use solid wood as a substrate? #2 Where can I find the appropriate hardware for floating shelves, or how do I make them myself. If anyone has experiece with this your suggestions would be most appreciated.
Thank you,
Brian


 
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JimC

 
Subject : RE: Veneerd Floating Shelves
Posted : 2004-01-10 3:00 PM
Post #31188 - In reply to #31187

I'd use torsion box construction to minimize shelf weight. Even with this, 14-16 inch depth is asking alot. Veneer top and bottom 1/4" plywood "skins", mill a matching or contrasting hardwood front edge, and assemble as a torsion box. Leave a recess at the back to slide over a hardwood cleat you have attached to the wall. There is an excellent article on a set of floating comtemporary shelves, using this method, at the Ace Hardware site, http://www.acehardware.com/info/index.jsp?categoryId=1300489&infoPath=1300488. If that doesn't work, find Acehardware.com and look for the bookshelf project.


 
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Don Stephan

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Subject : RE: Veneerd Floating Shelves
Posted : 2004-01-11 3:53 PM
Post #31189 - In reply to #31188

I seem to remember an extended discussion about a project like this 12-24 months ago on the Knots forum at Fine Woodworking. Can't remember though what terminology was used. You might start by searching on "floating shelf" or "wall shelf" or "torsion shelf."


 
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Scott Blackett

 
Subject : RE: Veneerd Floating Shelves
Posted : 2004-01-11 11:38 PM
Post #31190 - In reply to #31187

Dear Brian,
I have the solution. I am faced with this problem from time to time.The first thing you need to do, if at all possible, is find the studs. Then find some steel rods/dowell. The diameter of the rod should be determine by the thickness of the shelf and what kind of weight you're dealing with.
Drill into the studs with a "longer" drill bit. Stick the steel rod into the hole you drilled. (Keep in mind, that these holes will only work if they are perfectlly perpendicular to the wall @90 degrees, so you may want to make a jig out of a 2x4 with a drill press and use it as a guide as you're drilling into the wall) Take the 2x4 and use it as a guide on the back of the shelf.The only thing left to do after the holes are drilled into the back of the shelf is to slide the shelf onto the rods that you put in the wall. I must tell you, the trick here is making sure,100%, that all of the holes are drilled perfectly straight, square and level, because if the rods or the holes are'nt perfectlly parellel the shelf will not go on with out alot of hammering! scottblackett@comcast.net


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