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Lovegasoline

 
Subject : Flattening 1/32" Paper Backed Maple Veener?
Posted : 2002-12-04 5:08 PM
Post #29577

I'm new to veneering (and this forum) and was refered here from the rec.woodworking newsgroup. I wish to veneer two cabinets that are already assembled and need some advice. One cabinet is a 3'x4'x1', made of 1/2" Luan plywood: (essentially four panels (2) 1'x4' panels , and (2) 1'x3'.Second is a cabinet of 3/4" MDF: two 15"x 27" sides, and a large back 3'x27" to be veneered.I purchased an 8'x4' peice of standard maple veneer at the lumberyard, and I got the thicker of two varieties offered: it is 1/32" thick with a kraft paper backing. The veneer was rolled and I was dismayed when I got it home and saw that it had mild ripples ... not covering every inch, but dispersed fairly regularly throughout the piece. I need to apply the veneer and do not know how to proceed to get apply the veneer mounted so that it sits flat. Bear in mind that the cabinets are already assembled, which looks like it is going to complicate things.I have neither a manual veneer press nor a vacuum press, or funds for either at present. Is there a reasonable method to apply the veneer so that it goes on flat? These cabinets are complete save for the veneering and applying the finish: they've been sitting idle far too long in this state and I want them done and would like to be pleased with the final result. What are my options?Any advice would be GREATLY appreciated.Thanks a bunch!Cheers,Lovegasoline



 
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Rich Conley

 
Subject : Flattening 1/32
Posted : 2002-12-06 9:16 AM
Post #29583 - In reply to #29577

Regarding the contact cement, I agree. The contact cement is fine unless you someday have to refinish the cabinets. Then, you may have problems with delamination.Return the defective veneer to the manufacturer.-Rich ConleyGig Harbor, WA




 
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David B

 
Subject : Flattening 1/32
Posted : 2002-12-05 11:18 PM
Post #29582 - In reply to #29577

It is possible to veneer the cabinets after construction using cambered cauls and MDF platens, provided that the backs have not been installed or can be removed. I have had good results using this method.It takes a lot of cauls and a lot of clamps, but if you are thorough and methodical, it works like a charm.Let me know if you want more details.




 
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Darryl Keil

 
Subject : Flattening 1/32
Posted : 2002-12-05 9:27 AM
Post #29579 - In reply to #29577

Well, I want to launch into my usual monologue about proper glues for veneering and bla bla bla, but in your case there really isnt any options except the evil contact cement or possibly the yellow glue iron on technique.As far as the wrinkles go in your paper backed veneer, it really depends on how bad. If they are mild you should have no problem pressing them out, if they are more than that I would recommend taking the veneer back. Its hard enough to veneer and get good lasting results with the methods you will have to use without problem veneer to start with.If you are going to use contact cement get a good quality one and apply two coats to both surfaces. The iron on technique goes like this, roll a coat of yellow glue on both surfaces and let it dry completely. Lay the veneer on the cabinet and rub with the iron, it will melt the glue to give you the bond. Have a block of wood to rub down the veneer behind the iron. I actually dont know if the iron will work on paper backed veneer as the veneer is adhered to the paper with a hot melt adhesive and I am not sure if the iron is hot enough to release it, do a test. Good luck with whatever you try.SincerelyDarryl Keil: I'm new to veneering (and this forum) and was refered here from the : rec.woodworking newsgroup. : I wish to veneer two cabinets that are already assembled and need some : advice. : One cabinet is a 3'x4'x1', made of 1/2" Luan plywood: (essentially four : panels (2) 1'x4' panels , and (2) 1'x3'.: Second is a cabinet of 3/4" MDF: two 15"x 27" sides, and a large back : 3'x27" to be veneered.: I purchased an 8'x4' peice of standard maple veneer at the lumberyard, : and I got the thicker of two varieties offered: it is 1/32" thick with : a kraft paper backing. The veneer was rolled and I was dismayed when I : got it home and saw that it had mild ripples ... not covering every : inch, but dispersed fairly regularly throughout the piece. I need to : apply the veneer and do not know how to proceed to get apply the veneer : mounted so that it sits flat. Bear in mind that the cabinets are : already assembled, which looks like it is going to complicate things.: I have neither a manual veneer press nor a vacuum press, or funds for : either at present. Is there a reasonable method to apply the veneer so : that it goes on flat? These cabinets are complete save for the : veneering and applying the finish: they've been sitting idle far too : long in this state and I want them done and would like to be pleased : with the final result. : What are my options?: Any advice would be GREATLY appreciated.: Thanks a bunch!: Cheers,: Lovegasoline




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