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dzuy

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Subject : new to veneering
Posted : 2006-06-06 5:16 PM
Post #33103

hi all,

so before i dive into the art of veneering i hope to understand a few things more clearly.

essentially, i want to make some small - midsize design furniture (side tables, shelving solutions, coffee table).

mostly in modern arena with no curved work anytime soon.

the look i want usually involves exotic woods so naturally veneering was the only real practical path for me.

to start out, i simply want to experiment and learn on some very very basic projects with MDF and some RAW veneers. i know paperback is probably easier but ultimately i want to go raw.

now ive heard some people say i MUST get a vacuum press and some say i dont....or how about a mechnical press?

ideally, i want the most minimal setup that will work without sacrificing too much hassle. (i recently realized that i just can not get by with purely a circ saw for my cutting needs). i was trying to go minimal and actually thought a circ saw would cover basic cuts... now i have to get a table saw.

in any case, can i get by with just some PVA and an iron for raw v's like teak/zebrawood/wenge .......

any help would be greatly appreciated as i really have no idea where to start.

thanks!






 
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Don Stephan

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Subject : RE: new to veneering
Posted : 2006-06-06 7:26 PM
Post #33104 - In reply to #33103

Although I've no experience with other options (mechanical press, ...) I'd have to think a vacuum press is the easiest way to press veneer to substrates. And by the time the materials are all priced, it might be no more expensive, either.

For initial information and guidance on working with veneers, I would strongly suggest two videos that may now be available also as DVD's: "Working with Veneer" by the host of this forum, Darryl Keil, www.vacupress.com and "Decorative Veneering" by Paul Schurch www.schurchwoodwork.com. There is some overlap between the two but I would recommend purchasing both.

I haven't found a book I really like that includes vacuum pressing, but "The Complete Manual of Wood Veneering" by Lincoln is an excellent general reference on topics except vacuum veneering.

Some people have had repeated success with PVA and a hot iron, but it is essential that if there are any seams in the veneer, the veneer must be WELL dried before exposing it to the heat of an iron. I learned this with a very unfortunate experience, and don't plan to use PVA and irons on anything other than perhaps veneer edging in the future.

You could make smaller items, such as jewelry boxes, marquetry pictures, ... without a vacuum press using a few hand clamps, but even coffee tables are likely too large for hand clamp veneer pressing. And tables are generally going to have mortise and tenon joints, solid wood parts that require flattening and jointing, ... which CAN be done by hand if one has patience and good (mid to expensive) hand tools, but otherwise require additional power equipment such as a drill press, router, jointer, ...

To make veneered tables, one has to develop some knowledge and expertise with joinery and hardwoods; as well as veneering equipment and materials. If you are starting from the beginning, perhaps you could find a woodworker willing to make table legs, aprons, and joints, and allow you to focus initially on veneering? Just a thought... Another (later) thought would be to look for unfinished furniture that would allow you to substitute your own veneered top, or perhaps old furniture on which you could do similar.


 
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Mitch

 
Subject : RE: new to veneering
Posted : 2006-06-12 11:05 PM
Post #33119 - In reply to #33103

I had to press 8 panels about 22"x20" in size. I made a press similar to this one:

http://www.wood-veneers.com/veneering_intro.htm

I used a cordless drill with a socket to tighten all the bolts. Use the drill's clutch to get even pressure. The hardest parts to find were 5/16" bolts that are threaded over their whole length.

The above web site is also a great source of veneer lot's of good pictures and data on what's available (I think his name is Dave). I was in your shoes about a year ago and talked with me for a long time and gave me some good advice. He even threw in some "practice veneer".

Mitch


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