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Eli

 
Subject : walnut burl on raised panels
Posted : 2001-01-26 6:04 PM
Post #30244

I am thinking of making an 18 panel door. I would like to make the door out of walnut and have thought about using walnut burl veneer on the panels to give it that something extra. I wanted to get your thoughts on this. Is it best to use solid walnut panels, glue the veneer down then route the profile on the panel? Or is it better (although it seems like a lot more work to use MDF or plywood panels), and glue a walnut frame around that, veneer the whole think and then route the profile. In any case could you use yellow glue for this type of a veneer project? Also I have heard you should cross-band burl veneer with poplar backer veneer, but when you cut the profile you see a thin stripe of light colored poplar right. So is it ok not to cross-band walnut burl. Thanks in advance for any insight you might have.



 
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Ed Milne

 
Subject : walnut burl on raised panels
Posted : 2001-01-26 8:33 PM
Post #30253 - In reply to #30244

Ought to be an interesting project!! I would say that either solid panel or MDF panels framed with walnut would yield similar appearing results. The MDF panels would be less likely to move, in my experience, than solid ones, but that is dependent on the size. Since you say 18 panels, I am guessing that they are relatively small, and so you ought to be able to proceed safely either way - the main difference would likely be a lower material cost with MDF. The common knowledge I have read says you should crossband with a similar species, so poplar might not be the best choice, color aside. I would say (and Darryl might have more to say on this) that a small panel like you have when glued with a rigid glue like epoxy or Unibond 800 ought to be OK without crossbanding. I would be careful about using a flexible glue like yellow or other PVA adhesives. Good luck !!!: I am thinking of making an 18 panel door. I would like to make the : door out of walnut and have thought about using walnut burl veneer on : the panels to give it that something extra. I wanted to get your : thoughts on this. Is it best to use solid walnut panels, glue the : veneer down then route the profile on the panel? Or is it better : (although it seems like a lot more work to use MDF or plywood : panels), and glue a walnut frame around that, veneer the whole think : and then route the profile. In any case could you use yellow glue : for this type of a veneer project? Also I have heard you should : cross-band burl veneer with poplar backer veneer, but when you cut : the profile you see a thin stripe of light colored poplar right. So : is it ok not to cross-band walnut burl. Thanks in advance for any : insight you might have.




 
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Darryl Keil

 
Subject : walnut burl on raised panels
Posted : 2001-01-28 6:10 PM
Post #30327 - In reply to #30253

Dear Eli,I agree with Ed that you can really do it either way as the panels have got to be fairly small. Personally I would just glue the veneer straight to solid wood with the grain of the burl going the same direction as the solid, no need for a cross banding. And, yes if you look carefully burl does have a general grain direction.SincerelyDarryl Keil: Ought to be an interesting project!! I would say that either solid panel or MDF panels framed with walnut would yield similar appearing results. The MDF panels would be less likely to move, in my experience, than solid ones, but that is dependent on the size. Since you say 18 panels, I am guessing that they are relatively small, and so you ought to be able to proceed safely either way - the main difference would likely be a lower material cost with MDF. The common knowledge I have read says you should crossband with a similar species, so poplar might not be the best choice, color aside. I would say (and Darryl might have more to say on this) that a small panel like you have when glued with a rigid glue like epoxy or Unibond 800 ought to be OK without crossbanding. I would be careful about using a flexible glue like yellow or other PVA adhesives. Good luck !!!: : I am thinking of making an 18 panel door. I would like to make the : : door out of walnut and have thought about using walnut burl veneer on : : the panels to give it that something extra. I wanted to get your : : thoughts on this. Is it best to use solid walnut panels, glue the : : veneer down then route the profile on the panel? Or is it better : : (although it seems like a lot more work to use MDF or plywood : : panels), and glue a walnut frame around that, veneer the whole think : : and then route the profile. In any case could you use yellow glue : : for this type of a veneer project? Also I have heard you should : : cross-band burl veneer with poplar backer veneer, but when you cut : : the profile you see a thin stripe of light colored poplar right. So : : is it ok not to cross-band walnut burl. Thanks in advance for any : : insight you might have.




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