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Darryl Keil

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craig tufankjian

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Subject : pie vs starburst
Posted : 2009-04-26 6:02 PM
Post #35367

the common misconception in terms is that pie and star burst are the same thing. they are not. the template used for a pie match or radial as i like to call it is of course shaped like a pie, the template to produce a star burst has one side 90 degrees to the angle being used.

if you took a slice of pie and split it right down the center this would be what a star burst template would look like. no matter what part of the veneer you placed the template on you will most certainly end up with a series of stars radiating from the center. to create a star burst you would need two piece of veneer to make pie shape or segment and then continue on to complete the lay up

as with a pie match you can manipulate a star by by angling the template but you can not produce radiating star pattern over the whole lay up.

photo's attached show a lay up , one with a pie template the other with a star burst template. both templates were placed at the exact same location on the veneer. the pie cut has half the amount of pieces that the star burst design has one has 12 the other 24.

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg28/customone/pie-radialmatch.jpg

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg28/customone/starburst.jpg

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Don Stephan

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Subject : RE: pie vs starburst
Posted : 2009-04-26 6:28 PM
Post #35369 - In reply to #35367

Thanks for the explanation, Craig. As I continue to look at your two examples and the text, could one say that a starburst has one side of the template parallel to the grain direction and the pie has the centerline of the template parallel to the grain direction? This of course ignores the detail that in your definitions I think the included angle of the starburst is half the included angle (point) of the pie, if I understand correctly.
Would it be possible to to make a second pie-match, halving the included angle but keeping the centerline in the same place on the veneer? And of course, could you keep one edge of the starburst in the same position on the veneer but double the included angle?
I'll happily send you half April's profits for the education - it's been that kind of month. (Won't need an address or even an envelope - even "covering expenses" is a figment of the imagination.)

Don

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