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Richard Long

 
Subject : Unibond 800 and moisture
Posted : 2005-08-19 3:46 PM
Post #32356

About 2 months ago I had a friend helping in my shop to laminate a round table top with veneers.In the process of doing this I had him wipe a wet rag on some mdf to get ready for Guerilla glue.He misunderstood and wiped the wet rag on the mdf for the veneers.I did not notice before applying the unibond 800.Is this moisture underneath the unibond 800 going to cause a delam latter on?So far it has been approx. 2 months and no sign of trouble.Is it possible it will be ok?Thanks for your help and advice.

Richard


 
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Darryl Keil

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Subject : RE: Unibond 800 and moisture
Posted : 2005-08-20 10:17 AM
Post #32357 - In reply to #32356

Richard,

After full cure(within 24hrs)what you have two days later will be the same twenty years later. Because Unibond 800 is a catalytic glue once the chemical reaction is completed, its done, nothing changes after that. Although wiping a panel down with water is not what I recommend it appears there was no real damage.

Whenever I'm in doubt about the glue bond I wipe the veneered panel with water to see if there are any areas that may not have bonded properly. I wait a full 24 hrs before doing this to make sure the glue is completely cured. The water will attempt to swell the veneer, any areas that did not bond properly will bubble up.

So, lets say you do discover a bubble a year from now on this piece. It wouldn't be because the glue failed later on revealing a bubble, that bubble was always there, it just showed up when you had a humidity change. This humidity change just revealed what was already there. That's why I like wiping the veneered panel with water after pressing. It duplicates the humidity change scenario so there are no surprises later on. Just to add, I dont soak the panel just get it fully wet.

Sincerely
Darryl Keil


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