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Subject : 2 ply warping/cracking issue
Posted : 2005-02-04 9:39 AM
Post #32029

I'll start by saying that I am pretty new to vacuum pressing technology. I am creating 2 ply to lay down on curved cabinet doors and I am using Unibond 800 on this project. The veneer is ceylon satinwood and the backer is red oak veneer with a paper backer. I am gluing the paper side of the backer to the face veneer. Both veneers are glued 90 degrees to each other as recommended. After pressing these plys in the vac and removing it from the bag to sand it smooth, it starts to gradually curl in the opposite direction that I want it to bend around the form, and consequently I am getting some cracks in the veneer along the grain when I do the final pressing to the substrate on the form in the bag. It seems that the veneer is not happy having to bend from one curl direction to the opposite curl direction which I can understand. Is there some way that I can prevent this curl from happening in the first place? Any input is appreciated.
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Peter


 
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Darryl Keil

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Subject : RE: 2 ply warping/cracking issue
Posted : 2005-02-06 10:11 AM
Post #32030 - In reply to #32029

Peter,

There are a couple of things you can do to remedy this problem, unfortunately not on the ones you have already pressed. First, you need to press your face veneer on a backer that is more balanced than the paperbacked one. That satinwood is a dense hard veneer and the paperbacked oak doesnt have equal pull to keep the two ply from warping excessively. I suggest another raw veneer, and make it somewhat similar in density to the satinwood.

Second, once you take it out of the press make sure to keep it waited under a sheet of plywood. No matter how matched the two veneers are a two ply layup will warp if left out.

The third thing is to press up the two ply and press it to your curved panel in the same day, especially if its going on a fairly tight radius. Unibond achieves a very rigid state in 12 to 24 hours making it harder to bend without problems. If you press up the two ply first thing in the morning and then press it your panel by the end of the day the two ply is well bonded to itself but still has some flexibility for your second pressing. I just sand it right before applying the two ply to the curved panel.

Sincerely
Darryl Keil


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