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Ken Irish

 
Subject : veneer joint pops in short grain edge detail
Posted : 2000-04-24 1:42 PM
Post #30526

Hello Darryl,I made a half ellipse desk top about two years ago. The center is walnut burl on PB, 1/4" ebony band around the center, then solid walnut (1 1/2" wide) around the perimeter. I laid up short grain walnut veneer on the solid walnut. I negotiated the half elliptical curve with three bandsawn pieces of wood...the gentle mid section from stock about 30"long and 4" wide and the tighter left and right from stock about 5" wide 14" long. The short grain veneer joints have popped in about 7 locations around the perimeter. Nothing in the gentle curve and nothing on the straight front edge. Only on the tight radius curves. I'm assuming it has to do with movement of the solid walnut substrate in width...I glued it originally with yellow glue (this is before buying my vacuum press and being introduced to Unibond)My plan at this point is to rub unibond into the effected joints one at a time, cover with saran wrap, flat, thick caul and clamp hard with a manual clamp. My finisher says we may not need to resand and refinish the top if done carefully. Does this sound like a reasonable approach? Thanks for you time.



 
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Darryl Keil

 
Subject : veneer joint pops in short grain edge detail
Posted : 2000-04-24 4:53 PM
Post #30530 - In reply to #30526

Dear Ken,Im not sure Unibond would be the best glue at this point because you already have old glue in the joint. I would be more inclined to use super glue.In the future I would lay down a sub veneer when you have such wide solid wood to veneer over. This sub veneer would have insulated your face veneer from the movement of the solid wood.sincerelyDarryl Keil: Hello Darryl,: I made a half ellipse desk top about two years ago. The center is : walnut burl on PB, 1/4" ebony band around the center, then solid : walnut (1 1/2" wide) around the perimeter. I laid up short grain : walnut veneer on the solid walnut. I negotiated the half elliptical : curve with three bandsawn pieces of wood...the gentle mid section : from stock about 30"long and 4" wide and the tighter left and right : from stock about 5" wide 14" long. The short grain veneer joints have : popped in about 7 locations around the perimeter. Nothing in the : gentle curve and nothing on the straight front edge. Only on the : tight radius curves. I'm assuming it has to do with movement of the : solid walnut substrate in width...I glued it originally with yellow : glue (this is before buying my vacuum press and being introduced to : Unibond)My plan at this point is to rub unibond into the effected : joints one at a time, cover with saran wrap, flat, thick caul and : clamp hard with a manual clamp. My finisher says we may not need to : resand and refinish the top if done carefully. Does this sound like : a reasonable approach? Thanks for you time.




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