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Subject : Q: designing an edge treatment
Posted : 1999-10-05 12:29 PM
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Hi Darryl & Frank,I have a client who wants an oval table in quilted maple or fiddleback anigre (still undecided). The client wants a seamless transition between the tabletop and over the edge: i.e., no edging banding, inlay, etc. between top and edge. I need some help designing a technically workable edge transition. Ideally I'd like the veneer to flow directly from the top of the table over a bull nose edge treatment. I've watched Daryl's video but just don't think I can make this work on an oval because the bull nose flows under the tabletop. Can I make this work?Given that I can't veneer directly, we're considered the following solution:1) Bend solid or bending ply into a laminated curve.2) Cut the bull nose into the curve.3) Remove the platen from the bag and veneer the compound curve4) Attach the molding to the panelAssuming this procedure is good we have several questions:1) Can you cut a pull nose into bending ply and veneer over it, or should be use solid wood for the lamination.2) Can you veneer quilted maple or fiddleback anigre onto a compound curve.3) Do we veneer the panel before or after putting on the molding? What we're worried about is if we veneer after putting on the molding, the glue line will show when we sand. But how do you make seamless transition if you veneer the panel first and then put the molding on? Do you positively need an inlay between the panel and the molding: i.e., do I need to convince my client? Thanks for your help. Anything else we need to be concerned with.Kim Carleton GravesCarleton Woodworking



 
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Darryl Keil

 
Subject : Q: designing an edge treatment
Posted : 1999-10-05 10:01 PM
Post #30249 - In reply to #30248

Dear Kim,The veneering technique you saw in the Working in a Vacuum video where the birdseye maple veneer is pressed over the top of a round table with a radiused edge is about as much as canbe expected from this compound curve method. To veneer a oval table with a full bullnose justwont really work, a quarter radius yes, full bullnose no.If you veneer just a bent laminated bullnose you can probably press and massage the veneerover it, but I dont think it will give you the look you want. I would be more inclined to eithertalk the client into a quarter radius edge detail which can be veneered with the seamless effectyou are looking for or make them up a sample with a classy inlay between the veneered topand solid bullnose edging, which I think would look very sharp. That would be my approach at least.SincerelyDarryl Keil: Hi Darryl & Frank,: I have a client who wants an oval table in quilted maple or fiddleback anigre (still undecided). The client wants a seamless : transition between the tabletop and over the edge: i.e., no edging banding, inlay, etc. between top and edge. I need some : help designing a technically workable edge transition. Ideally I'd like the veneer to flow directly from the top of the table over : a bull nose edge treatment. I've watched Daryl's video but just don't think I can make this work on an oval because the bull : nose flows under the tabletop. Can I make this work?: Given that I can't veneer directly, we're considered the following solution:: 1) Bend solid or bending ply into a laminated curve.: 2) Cut the bull nose into the curve.: 3) Remove the platen from the bag and veneer the compound curve: 4) Attach the molding to the panel: Assuming this procedure is good we have several questions:: 1) Can you cut a pull nose into bending ply and veneer over it, or should be use solid wood for the lamination.: 2) Can you veneer quilted maple or fiddleback anigre onto a compound curve.: 3) Do we veneer the panel before or after putting on the molding? What we're worried about is if we veneer after : putting on the molding, the glue line will show when we sand. But how do you make seamless transition if you veneer the : panel first and then put the molding on? Do you positively need an inlay between the panel and the molding: i.e., do I need to : convince my client? : Thanks for your help. Anything else we need to be concerned with.: Kim Carleton Graves: Carleton Woodworking




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