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Subject : table saw veneer jointing
Posted : 2006-04-15 6:38 PM
Post #32974

Somewhere on the net, sometime in the last year I found & have now lost ajig available for this operation & the key seemed to be the clamping system. My memory says it was somewhere between 500 & 1000 bucks has anyone seen it, used it, or built one? I searched this forum but din't see anything completely like it.

mike mcnerney
in ottawa


 
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Darryl Keil

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Subject : RE: table saw veneer jointing
Posted : 2006-04-16 9:10 PM
Post #32977 - In reply to #32974

Mike,

Its called the Miracle Venner Trimmer. The web site address is http://www.idesign-bruceberman.com/id17.html

Sincerely
Darryl Keil


 
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Carl C. Lavery, III

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Subject : RE: table saw veneer jointing
Posted : 2006-07-03 11:31 AM
Post #33159 - In reply to #32977

Have you used this fixture? Does it work well and is it worth the cost?
I am looking also for a good way to cut veneers without tear out. Does anyone that has used this have any advice? Are there any "plans" on a fixture that will cut veneer anywhere?


 
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Darryl Keil

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Subject : RE: table saw veneer jointing
Posted : 2006-07-05 9:41 AM
Post #33162 - In reply to #33159

Carl,

I tested this product about a year ago and found it worked pretty good but felt it needed a little tweaking. Since then some modifications have been done but I have not retested it.

I have not tried the Festool so cannot comment on that. I have used a router jig that has served me quite well and would be happy to send you some pictures of it if you like.

Sincerely
Darryl Keil


 
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Yussu

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Subject : RE: table saw veneer jointing
Posted : 2006-07-06 11:50 AM
Post #33166 - In reply to #33162

Darryl, I´d be very interested to see pictures about your router jig, if possible.


 
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Brian Gray

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Subject : RE: table saw veneer jointing
Posted : 2006-04-18 11:44 AM
Post #32982 - In reply to #32974

I use the Festool Circular saw.

When you use this with the guide, it gives perfect veneer cuts without any tearout. Even burls and crossgrain.

The new model has a chip guard on the waste side, as well.


 
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Don Stephan

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Subject : RE: table saw veneer jointing
Posted : 2006-07-04 6:15 PM
Post #33160 - In reply to #32974

One method is to trap the veneer between two pieces of plywood as wide as the veneer and perhaps 12" longer. Drive a couple bugle head screws at each end with the veneer edge even with the edge of the plywood. The assembly can be jointed and/or passed through the table saw, but neither approach can top the edge left by the Festool saw and guide. I used the Festool for the 1st time last week (on some quartersawn maple) and the edges were absolutely perfect - so good that after pulling the joints together with some pieces of blue tape on the glue side, I had to look very closely to find the seams on the show side for gum taping.

The Festool saw is more expensive than American brands, but can also be used to cut sheet goods to more manageable size if needed. I purchased with saw in a package with the Festool vacuum, and after finding how to adapt my Bosch 6" ROS and PC 4" belt sander to the vacuum hose can now sand with minimal airborne dust.


 
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Brian Gray

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Subject : RE: table saw veneer jointing
Posted : 2006-07-04 9:52 PM
Post #33161 - In reply to #33160

That's great, Don.

I'm so glad to see that someone else here is using the Festool Saw for veneer work. I've been singing it's praises for a while now, and there wasn't anyone else here to corroborate my story!


 
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Roger Barga

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Subject : RE: table saw veneer jointing
Posted : 2006-07-06 11:18 PM
Post #33167 - In reply to #33161

Are you guys using the standard blade that came with your Festool circular saw, or are you using the negative rake blade? I've seen this technique demo'd using the negative rake blade with great results but I'm too cheap to purchase the extra blade - would be nice to find you guys are having good luck with the standard issue blade.

Thanks,
Roger


 
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Brian Gray

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Subject : RE: table saw veneer jointing
Posted : 2006-07-07 7:15 AM
Post #33168 - In reply to #33167

I use the standard 48 tooth blade, which is not negative rake. I've never desired cleaner cuts that what I get with it.

http://www.festoolusa.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProdID=491952&ID=3

Does Festool offer a negative rake blade? I was on their website, and I can't tell if any of the blades are negative rake. They offer blades for laminate flooring and aluminum that are triple chip, however, you need be be careful with those blades. They are slightly thicker than the standard blades, and the first time you use them, you will remove more of the rubber mat that offers such great chip-out protection. Then if you go back to a standard blade, you would have cut off a little bit of the needed mat for that blade. The rubber can be replaced, but basically, if you need to use one of those triple-chip blades, you need to dedicate a guide rail specifically to that blade due to the extra thickness.

Roger - you say that you saw this demo'd. Was this when we were with Paul Schurch? I could be wrong, but I wrote down that he used the standard 48-tooth blade when he demo'd that for us.

Regardless, I have no need to experiment with different blades, given that all cuts are clean with my present blade, and the triple-chip blades will ruin the mat for standard blades.


 
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Wendell Hughes

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Subject : RE: table saw veneer jointing
Posted : 2006-08-11 3:09 AM
Post #33304 - In reply to #32974

on the DVD "The Master Techniques of Marquetry" by Silas Kopf he shows how to do this. His Jig is basically a cross-cut sled. He raises the blade just above the veener and places and clamps a board, thick enough not to be cut through over the blade and makes the cut. Works fine on the video - have not had time to try it myself.

Wendell Hughes


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