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Djarchow

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Subject : Question on veneering a cabinet with a chamfer.
Posted : 2015-06-15 4:19 PM
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I am doing a project with my son (speakers) in which we will need to veneer a 1/2" chamfer on all four edges on the front of the cabinet. The veneer (NBL) will be applied using Unibond with clamps and cauls, though I do have a vac bag.

I am not sure how to approach veneering the chamfer. Should I veneer all the sides, top, etc. then route the chamfer and finally veneer the chamfers much like doing edge banding? This would give me nice clean edges with the other veneer pieces but also means I will not be overlapping the chamfer veneer edges which means the veneer edge will be more visible from the front.

The other option is to cut the chamfers, then veneer the sides, then the chamfer, and finally the top and front panels. This will give me the cleanest look but will require more detail work getting the sides, top front etc. hand trimmed/sanded flush with the chamfered surface.

Finally, any suggestions on handling the chamfer/miter at the corners where the chamfers meet? I thought about cutting the veneer strips slightly larger than needed, then, veneering one edge, trim flush to the next edge with a razor knife and then then doing the same with the next edge.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Regards,

Dennis


 
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Don Stephan

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Subject : RE: Question on veneering a cabinet with a chamfer.
Posted : 2015-06-15 7:25 PM
Post #37282 - In reply to #37281
Dennis

Sounds like beaucoup fussing, with lots of potential for unpleasantness. How about instead applying matching hardwood edging to the front of the speakers, then veneering the surfaces, and finally routing the chamfer in the hardwood?


 
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Djarchow

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Subject : RE: Question on veneering a cabinet with a chamfer.
Posted : 2015-06-15 10:40 PM
Post #37284 - In reply to #37282
Don,

Thanks for the reply. Yep it does sound like a lot of fussing. I am not worried about the time aspect as I am doing this with my 11 y/o son as his first introduction to woodworking so it has already taken 4 times longer than if I did it all myself.

The veneer is ribbon stripe mahogany(kahya). I thought about doing hardwood edging but have never really liked the look as I am pretty anal about grain matching the front and the top. Also I don't have a source for exotic hardwoods locally; but I did look at the Woodsmith store a couple hours from me over the weekend and the mahogany they had didn't look anywhere near the color of the veneer. I am sure I could beat the color into matching with enough dye but wanted a fairly natural finish.

I may just make up a test panel and see how tough it is to get the veneered corners to line up. Depending on that, I may just say to heck with it and skip the chamfers.

Thanks again,

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Dennis


 
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craig tufankjian

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Subject : RE: Question on veneering a cabinet with a chamfer.
Posted : 2015-06-15 7:26 PM
Post #37283 - In reply to #37281
what species of veneer are you using?



 
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Djarchow

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Subject : RE: Question on veneering a cabinet with a chamfer.
Posted : 2015-06-15 10:41 PM
Post #37285 - In reply to #37283
Craig,

it is NBL quarter sawn mahogany (khaya).

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Dennis


 
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Don Stephan

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Subject : RE: Question on veneering a cabinet with a chamfer.
Posted : 2015-06-16 7:03 AM
Post #37286 - In reply to #37285
NBL (no black line) is a version of wood-on-wood two ply. It is sanded in the factory, so the thickness of the face veneer, here quartered "ribbon" khaya, will be thinner than that of raw veneer.

With a veneered chamfer, I would expect more than normal occurrence of glue getting on the adjoining veneered surfaces. Very careful sanding and/or use of a card scraper will be needed to avoid going through the face of this commercially made wood on wood veneer.


 
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Djarchow

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Subject : RE: Question on veneering a cabinet with a chamfer.
Posted : 2015-06-16 8:21 AM
Post #37287 - In reply to #37286
Don,

I use either NBL or two ply in most of my veneering so I am pretty comfortable with how much sanding I can get away with. Not to say I haven't screwed up before...

Thanks again!

Dennis




 
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Djarchow

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Subject : RE: Question on veneering a cabinet with a chamfer.
Posted : 2015-09-09 12:31 PM
Post #37316 - In reply to #37287
I wanted to get back and show a picture of the finished veneer. Veneering the chamfers was a pain but it turned out OK. It is hard to tell in this shot but I got the grain to match well from the top, the chamfer and the front.

Thanks for all the help.

Dennis


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Darryl Keil

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Subject : RE: Question on veneering a cabinet with a chamfer.
Posted : 2015-09-09 7:10 PM
Post #37317 - In reply to #37316
Looks really nice, great job!


 
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Djarchow

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Subject : RE: Question on veneering a cabinet with a chamfer.
Posted : 2015-09-09 9:09 PM
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Thanks Darryl!
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